Chamandeep, Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Stefik On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Chamandeep Grover <cmusic789@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello, > > Andreas, are you referring to the TeDUB project? There was another > project run by dr. Oussama Metatla from Queen Mary university here in > the uk, which i believed worked on a similar principle. The software > presented the diagrams in a tree structure where the elements had > textual descriptions along with sounds to signify its type. The > various nodes of a diagram could be expanded and you would have access > to attributes, relations etc. The software was combined with a haptics > device, which allowed a user to get a feel for how the diagram is > visually layed out by using a magnetic pen. The device could also be > used to move various elements to different locations. I tested the > solution more than a year ago, when it was in its early stages of > development. I haven't since looked at it, but it may have moved on. > Do search for DR. Oussama Metatla, as the solution maybe useful to > you. > > If you happen to be in the UK an dneed information on transcription > services etc, then do contact me and i can help you further. > > Regards, > Chamandeep Singh Grover > > On 10/9/12, Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Its not the easiest thing in the world but I'd not say its impossible. >> I've found 2 tools, Enterprise Architect from sparx systems and an >> enterprise level tool with an enterprise level price tag Rational Rhapsody >> which are both reasonably accessible. >> >> You've got to think out side of the box a little and if you've got access to >> either of these tools then I can give advice on how they can be accessed >> with a screen reader if that helps. >> >> Unfortunately it looks like UML is here to stay and we've just got to get >> used to it. >> >> Thanks. >> Nick. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik >> Sent: Monday, 08 October 2012 18:03 >> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [program-l] Re: uml and diagrams and moddeling with jaws >> >> In my experience, Chamandeep is correct, there just isn't much out >> there. There was a Ph.D. dissertation several years back on UML for >> the blind, which was excellent, by Alasdair King, if I recall. It's >> great work, although to my knowledge it hasn't been integrated into >> any commercial tools. >> >> For what it's worth, there's rumors going around that NetBeans is >> getting a new UML architecture in the relatively near future. I've >> been talking a little and I'm really hoping we can make this >> accessible in Sodbeans. That's a bit down the road, and doesn't help >> anyone today, but hopefully in the future. >> >> Stefik >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Chamandeep Grover >> <cmusic789@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> hello, >>> >>> This topic seems to have come up a lot lately, but i do not believe >>> there are many useful tools. I myself, am doing a software engineering >>> degree, which have a lot of visual elements to the course (UML). The >>> way i had to do it was to use german film, or have the diagrams >>> transcribed by an external braille transcription service. The cost of >>> this should normally be paid by your institution. I am not sure where >>> you are located, but perhaps you could try speaking to your lecturer >>> and if they are the not understanding type, then look into the laws in >>> your country and use those to your advantage in the most polite way >>> possible (anger doesn't always get you what you need). >>> >>> If i have given false information here, i hope that someone will >>> correct me, as i understand the frustration these issues can cause. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chamandeep Singh >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/8/12, Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> i need to do a subject for my web site development course. >>>> a new subject, was added today. >>>> i need to use data flow diagrams, entity related diagrams, moddeling and >>>> uml. >>>> using jaws 14 public beta 2, on a windows 7 laptop. >>>> is there any accessible software, that can help me out? >>>> just checking. >>>> thanks. >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> This email and any files attached are intended for the addressee and may >> contain information of a confidential nature. 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