[program-l] Re: uml and diagrams and moddeling with jaws

  • From: Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:02:03 -0500

Chamandeep,

Yup, that's exactly what I meant.

Stefik

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Chamandeep Grover
<cmusic789@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Andreas, are you referring to the TeDUB project? There was another
> project run by dr. Oussama Metatla from Queen Mary university here in
> the uk, which i believed worked on a similar principle. The software
> presented the diagrams in a tree structure where the elements had
> textual descriptions along with sounds to signify its type. The
> various nodes of a diagram could be expanded and you would have access
> to attributes, relations etc. The software was combined with a haptics
> device, which allowed a user to get a feel for how the diagram is
> visually layed out by using a magnetic pen. The device could also be
> used to move various elements to different locations. I tested the
> solution more than a year ago, when it was in its early stages of
> development. I haven't since looked at it, but it may have moved on.
> Do search for DR. Oussama Metatla, as the solution maybe useful to
> you.
>
> If you happen to be in the UK an dneed information on transcription
> services etc, then do contact me and i can help you further.
>
> Regards,
> Chamandeep Singh Grover
>
> On 10/9/12, Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Its not the easiest thing in the world but I'd not say its impossible.
>> I've found 2 tools, Enterprise Architect from sparx systems and an
>> enterprise level tool with an enterprise level price tag Rational Rhapsody
>> which are both reasonably accessible.
>>
>> You've got to think out side of the box a little and if you've got access to
>> either of these tools then I can give advice on how they can be accessed
>> with a screen reader if that helps.
>>
>> Unfortunately it looks like UML is here to stay and we've just got to get
>> used to it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Nick.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
>> Sent: Monday, 08 October 2012 18:03
>> To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [program-l] Re: uml and diagrams and moddeling with jaws
>>
>> In my experience, Chamandeep is correct, there just isn't much out
>> there. There was a Ph.D. dissertation several years back on UML for
>> the blind, which was excellent, by Alasdair King, if I recall. It's
>> great work, although to my knowledge it hasn't been integrated into
>> any commercial tools.
>>
>> For what it's worth, there's rumors going around that NetBeans is
>> getting a new UML architecture in the relatively near future. I've
>> been talking a little and I'm really hoping we can make this
>> accessible in Sodbeans. That's a bit down the road, and doesn't help
>> anyone today, but hopefully in the future.
>>
>> Stefik
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Chamandeep Grover
>> <cmusic789@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> This topic seems to have come up a lot lately, but i do not believe
>>> there are many useful tools. I myself, am doing a software engineering
>>> degree, which have a lot of visual elements to the course (UML). The
>>> way i had to do it was to use german film, or have the diagrams
>>> transcribed by an external braille transcription service. The cost of
>>> this should normally be paid by your institution. I am not sure where
>>> you are located, but perhaps you could try speaking to your lecturer
>>> and if they are the not understanding type, then look into the laws in
>>> your country and use those to your advantage in the most polite way
>>> possible (anger doesn't always get you what you need).
>>>
>>> If i have given false information here, i hope that someone will
>>> correct me, as i understand the frustration these issues can cause.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chamandeep Singh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/8/12, Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>> i need to do a subject for my web site development course.
>>>> a new subject, was added today.
>>>> i need to use data flow diagrams, entity related diagrams, moddeling and
>>>> uml.
>>>> using jaws 14 public beta 2, on a windows 7 laptop.
>>>> is there any accessible software, that can help me out?
>>>> just checking.
>>>> thanks.
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