[program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:46:04 +0100
MessageHi Che,
It does look like a bad install of the .Net Framework or Visual Basic Express.
The error is referring to being unable to locate a component that should have
been installed when you installed Visual Basic Express and the .Net Framework.
If the repair doesn't solve the problem, you might like to try uninstalling
Visual Basic Express and the .Net Framework 2.0, and then downloading and
reinstalling it again, as it may have been a bad download.
I think that previous versions of the .Net Framework refer to prior builds of
the .Net Framework 2.0. You shouldn't have these unless you've previously
installed an earlier version of one of the Visual Studio 2005 products, say one
of the beta 1 products, or an earlier version of the .Net Framework 2.0.
What are the details of the system on which you are trying to install to, as
this may be a system specific problem.
Thanks,
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: Che
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 3:29 PM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Well, after looking up an error message I was getting, it looks like there
are problems with installing VS 2005 when previous versions of the .net
framework have been uninstalled, which might explain the problems I am getting.
I am now trying to do a repair on my VS install in the hopes it will fix the
affected files.
Just a little update for ya...
----- Original Message -----
From: Che
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:50 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Hmm, I dunno guys. Maybe the express version is more crippled than I
thought. I have tried many different ways of getting the button into my form,
none of which has worked. I tried your suggestion of simply hitting the enter
key on it in the toolbox with no result, using the jaws cursor to click on it,
tried to copy and paste it with no success.
Also, if I attempt to view designer, I get the error could not load type
microsoft.VisualBasic.shell.interopt. blah blah
Is this a limitation of express beta 2 or a bad install do you think?
All I am doing is starting VS, selecting new project>windowsApplication
then going to my form, which shows me the default start and end class lines.
Should I maybe look at getting a different version of Studio?
Thanks once again to both of you guys, and I was quite serious about
donating to your favorite charity for the help, just let me know.
Che
----- Original Message -----
From: Will Pearson
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:12 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Hi,
To add to Mr. Lan'ts excellent answer, you can find lists of shortcut
keys on the Microsoft website. Visual Studio 2005 has various keyboard
schemes, with the keyboard shortcuts used to invoke functionality varying
between the different keyboard schemes. This is really to help people
transition to Visual Studio from earlier versions. You can find out which
keyboard scheme you are currently using by looking at the options in tools >
options > keyboard. The following web page gives a list of the keyboard
shortcuts that are the same across all keyboard schemes, and gives a list of
keyboard schemes that allows you to select one and view the keyboard shortcuts
for that scheme, the page is at:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/da5kh0wa
To add a bit more information about navigating the tool box. The tool
box is arranged in a style similar to a tree control with two levels. The
first level are the toolbox groups, which represent the types of controls you
can place on a form, e.g. common controls, dialogs, etc. You can expand these
using the right cursor key, and collapse them using the left cursor key.
Within the toolbox groups there are toolbox items, which are the actual
controls you can place on a form. If you press enter on a toolbox item then it
will be placed on the form. To get back to the forms designer from the
toolbox, simply press escape.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: David Lant
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Hi Che,
Just to answer your immediate problem first, all you need to do to put
a button on your form, is open the toolbox with ctrl+alt+X, and then use the
arrow keys to locate the button control and press enter. This normally drops
the control at the top left of the form, or, if you already have controls on
the form, it will drop it immediately below the control that is currently
selected on the form designer. You can then move the control on the form using
just the arrow keys, or ctrl+arrow keys for smaller increments. You can also
resize the controls using shift+arrow keys, or shift+ctrl+arrow keys for
smaller increments.
Visual Studio itself has a helpful facility whereby you can look up the
keyboard shortcuts for all the available commands and functions. You should be
able to find the default shortcuts documented in the online help that comes
with the product. I don't have the beta of Visual Basic Express, so I don't
know whether the online help is actually included or not.
The handy facility is in the Options item under the Tools menu. When
you open this dialog, you get a tree view of the different sections that you
can set within the Visual Studio environment. One of these is the Keyboard
mappings. When you navigate to this section, there is a text box you can tab
to where you can type in the start of the name of the command you are looking
for, and it will then list all the commands that begin with that text, and show
what keyboard shortcuts are assigned to each, if any. You can also override
them, or add new ones where there aren't any.
Visual Studio.NET, and subsequently Visual Studio 2005, allows you to
have keyboard shortcuts for virtually everything you're ever likely to want to
do, other than operate the mouse directly. Therefore, JAWS itself shouldn't
really need to include many shortcuts of its own to help the blind programmer.
I've even reported to the writer of the current VS.NET scripts supplied with
JAWS, and suggested he remove some of the shortcuts included, as they're simply
duplicating shortcuts already present in the development environment. The only
things JAWS needs to provide are commands to control JAWS itself, such as
providing feedback and customisation of prompts etc.
Oh, and if you think that there are way too many commands to find
enough keyboard shortcuts to assign to them all, then that's been thought of
too. In Visual Studio.NET, you can assign two stage shortcuts. That is, you
press one shortcut, to indicate a particular type of command is about to be
issued, and then another to specify the actual one. An example of this is for
commenting blocks of selected code. If you use the standard shift+arrow keys
to select a few lines of code, and then press ctrl+K, and then press ctrl+C,
you will comment out the selected block. To uncomment the block again, simply
highlight the lines again, and press ctrl+K followed by ctrl+U. As you can
see, by having these two stage keyboard shortcuts, you vastly increase the
number and combination of shortcuts available to you.
All the best,
David
-----Original Message-----
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Che
Sent: 16 September 2005 11:45
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] VB: shortcut keys
Does anyone know where a current list of Visual Studio shortcut
keys can be found? I tried the links at blindprogramming.com, but they are
dead links.
I am working through a tutorial that is asking me to drag a button
from the toolbox onto my form, but obviously I can't do that one. I hope there
are shortcuts for this kind of thing? I tried to do a copy and paste of the
button from my toolbox, but that didn't work either.
Thanks.
Che
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