[program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
- From: "Che" <che@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 08:50:06 -0500
Message Hmm, I dunno guys. Maybe the express version is more crippled than I
thought. I have tried many different ways of getting the button into my form,
none of which has worked. I tried your suggestion of simply hitting the enter
key on it in the toolbox with no result, using the jaws cursor to click on it,
tried to copy and paste it with no success.
Also, if I attempt to view designer, I get the error could not load type
microsoft.VisualBasic.shell.interopt. blah blah
Is this a limitation of express beta 2 or a bad install do you think?
All I am doing is starting VS, selecting new project>windowsApplication then
going to my form, which shows me the default start and end class lines.
Should I maybe look at getting a different version of Studio?
Thanks once again to both of you guys, and I was quite serious about donating
to your favorite charity for the help, just let me know.
Che
----- Original Message -----
From: Will Pearson
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:12 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Hi,
To add to Mr. Lan'ts excellent answer, you can find lists of shortcut keys on
the Microsoft website. Visual Studio 2005 has various keyboard schemes, with
the keyboard shortcuts used to invoke functionality varying between the
different keyboard schemes. This is really to help people transition to Visual
Studio from earlier versions. You can find out which keyboard scheme you are
currently using by looking at the options in tools > options > keyboard. The
following web page gives a list of the keyboard shortcuts that are the same
across all keyboard schemes, and gives a list of keyboard schemes that allows
you to select one and view the keyboard shortcuts for that scheme, the page is
at:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/da5kh0wa
To add a bit more information about navigating the tool box. The tool box is
arranged in a style similar to a tree control with two levels. The first level
are the toolbox groups, which represent the types of controls you can place on
a form, e.g. common controls, dialogs, etc. You can expand these using the
right cursor key, and collapse them using the left cursor key. Within the
toolbox groups there are toolbox items, which are the actual controls you can
place on a form. If you press enter on a toolbox item then it will be placed
on the form. To get back to the forms designer from the toolbox, simply press
escape.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: David Lant
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:52 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: shortcut keys
Hi Che,
Just to answer your immediate problem first, all you need to do to put a
button on your form, is open the toolbox with ctrl+alt+X, and then use the
arrow keys to locate the button control and press enter. This normally drops
the control at the top left of the form, or, if you already have controls on
the form, it will drop it immediately below the control that is currently
selected on the form designer. You can then move the control on the form using
just the arrow keys, or ctrl+arrow keys for smaller increments. You can also
resize the controls using shift+arrow keys, or shift+ctrl+arrow keys for
smaller increments.
Visual Studio itself has a helpful facility whereby you can look up the
keyboard shortcuts for all the available commands and functions. You should be
able to find the default shortcuts documented in the online help that comes
with the product. I don't have the beta of Visual Basic Express, so I don't
know whether the online help is actually included or not.
The handy facility is in the Options item under the Tools menu. When you
open this dialog, you get a tree view of the different sections that you can
set within the Visual Studio environment. One of these is the Keyboard
mappings. When you navigate to this section, there is a text box you can tab
to where you can type in the start of the name of the command you are looking
for, and it will then list all the commands that begin with that text, and show
what keyboard shortcuts are assigned to each, if any. You can also override
them, or add new ones where there aren't any.
Visual Studio.NET, and subsequently Visual Studio 2005, allows you to have
keyboard shortcuts for virtually everything you're ever likely to want to do,
other than operate the mouse directly. Therefore, JAWS itself shouldn't really
need to include many shortcuts of its own to help the blind programmer. I've
even reported to the writer of the current VS.NET scripts supplied with JAWS,
and suggested he remove some of the shortcuts included, as they're simply
duplicating shortcuts already present in the development environment. The only
things JAWS needs to provide are commands to control JAWS itself, such as
providing feedback and customisation of prompts etc.
Oh, and if you think that there are way too many commands to find enough
keyboard shortcuts to assign to them all, then that's been thought of too. In
Visual Studio.NET, you can assign two stage shortcuts. That is, you press one
shortcut, to indicate a particular type of command is about to be issued, and
then another to specify the actual one. An example of this is for commenting
blocks of selected code. If you use the standard shift+arrow keys to select a
few lines of code, and then press ctrl+K, and then press ctrl+C, you will
comment out the selected block. To uncomment the block again, simply highlight
the lines again, and press ctrl+K followed by ctrl+U. As you can see, by
having these two stage keyboard shortcuts, you vastly increase the number and
combination of shortcuts available to you.
All the best,
David
-----Original Message-----
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Che
Sent: 16 September 2005 11:45
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] VB: shortcut keys
Does anyone know where a current list of Visual Studio shortcut keys
can be found? I tried the links at blindprogramming.com, but they are dead
links.
I am working through a tutorial that is asking me to drag a button
from the toolbox onto my form, but obviously I can't do that one. I hope there
are shortcuts for this kind of thing? I tried to do a copy and paste of the
button from my toolbox, but that didn't work either.
Thanks.
Che
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