It is a pleasure to find consensus. -----Original Message----- From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui Sent: 22 September 2005 16:24 To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-l] Re: VB: Laying out items I agree. The circumstances have much to do with whether open source or proprietary approaches will work better for developers and users. As you know, there are also significant variations in open source licensing these days, attempting to capture the strengths of "free" and "commercial" processes. Jamal ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** program-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq