[Precisionix-General] Re: Installer
- From: Andrew Sorensen <aos@xxxxxxx>
- To: precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:35:15 -0700
Yes, I think ubuntus installer is very easy --- but do we want to give
users a choice of desktop durring install or not? As for partitioning,
we can change that interface a little to make it easier and less buggy
than the ubuntu one. fw-cutter is a poor driver, and would rarely give
me more than 1Mb/s so I use ndiswrapper on that computer, and the free
intel driver on my new laptop. We wont include DRM software or such in
our distribution, maybe fluendo stuff and a codec assistant.
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 01:46 -0700, daaawg wrote:
> As far as my experience with the install process:
> I have many years supporting Windows systems professionally in
> enterprise environments -- the install process for Ubuntu blew me away
> -- very quick and painless. The only problem I had was making a
> decision on how I should partition my drives. For a default choice, I
> believe separate partitions for root and home are appropriate, of
> course we would have to include a choice to leave any windoze
> partition intact. For those choosing to set up custom partitions, a
> simple statement explaining the sanity behind a separate partition for
> the home directory would have saved me some time googling for an
> answer to the question, "what makes a good linux partition scheme?"
> The hardware detection was quite good, although my laptop sound does
> not work :( even though it appears that the hardware was detected
> properly. Wifi required the use of the fwcutter driver which worked
> for about 10 minutes, at which point I googled the problem from
> another computer, and installed the ndiswrapper for the broadcom
> windows drivers. Of course, because of Ubuntu's philosophy, I had to
> install non-free and/or proprietary codecs for dvd viewing. Some of
> these problems are due to self-imposed constraints due to ideology,
> some are due to legal issues such as DRM. Before any work is done to
> build a distro, ground rules need to be set to cover these issues. If
> it is going to be a distro that is crippled out of the box due to
> legal/philosophical issues, then it should be made clear right away
> why this is so, but it should be made as painless as possible to get
> the software to make things work. I think Ubuntu did a good job on the
> part of providing easy installation of the software pieces, but I was
> pretty much in the dark as to why I had to jump through these hoops.
> In summary, I think Ubuntu's install process is quite good and
> deserves a close look.
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Sorensen <aos@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think its time we make some important decisions about the
> installer
> process, since it will effect other aspects about what we do.
> we dont have any set way we have to do this yet, the rest
> needs to be
> designed on a few questions...
> here are some choices for package/install format:
> 1)Livecd + squashfs (like ubuntu) the user boots a livecd, the
> boot
> process uses a squashfs on the cd as / tempfs, and boots. When
> the user
> installs the distro, the squashfs is uncompressed to the hard
> disk, and
> the installer program and unneeded things that were
> uncompressed to disk
> are removed, and the system config is setup..
> advantages of this system are a fast install speed, cons are
> that user
> has to install everything from the squashfs, and remove what
> they dont
> need ;( (no choosing gnome vs kde here, unless you got another
> cd...)
>
> 2)debian based installer (like debian-installer in debian)
> this would simply install all the packages to the users target
> system,
> it will take much longer than the first install method,
> however lets the
> user choose just what they want to install.
>
> 3)some other setup (your ideas go here!)
> if you know of a better way to do this, post here! if you got
> some ideas
> about making a new installer, post here as well!
> I think with our mailing list you just gotta do Re: Installer
> as subject
> and precisionix-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx as mailto, and it will
> take it as
> a reply.
>
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> --
> The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many',
> and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.
> - Larry Hardiman
>
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