Ok that's good about the HD's. I don't fully remember now your original question and all of my reply (you removed them), so going from a sketchy memory of them.......I'm not familiar with that company. But I don't think that's considered "name brand", but they could do the same things as a name brand PC (HP, Compaq, etc.) with regards to the way they install the OS. The problem those types have with the SP3 issue is way XP is installed. The intelppm.sys file has a serious problem on AMD platforms when SP3 is installed (causes the infinite reboot loop I mentioned). That file is not supposed to be on AMD PC's, it's only for Intel platforms (I think it's a CPU driver related to some sleep or suspend mode feature). If you do decide to install it and you have the problem, just post to the list and I can tell you how to fix it. -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern" > If you're totally happy with the way it's working, then of > course I wouldn't mess with it either. Sounds like you > REALLY > need to backup all your data bad. If you can't live without > it > you're going to be in a really bad fix (not IF but WHEN) the > HD(s) or something else goes bad. > -Clint I have 2 external hard drive enclosures that I use for cloning my hard drive using Acronis. I got this off Wikipedia --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PC Club is a privately-owned, United States-based chain of computer hardware stores established in City of Industry, California in 1992. The stores are located primarily in west-coast states and stock hardware and peripherals for PCs and complete computer systems assembled under the brand name Enpower. Enpower Enpower is the name brand for computer systems that are sold through PC Club for over 16 years. What supposedly makes Enpower systems different from many large distributors is that they are built from brand new , name-brand parts and include a full-install copy of Microsoft Windows (rather than a recovery disc loaded with extra software). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think my motherboard is an MSI. ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-