That's why I use MPC because it's so clean, light, and stealthy. It doesn't even need to be installed. BTW, MPC is not the M$ 6.4 version, it's a tweaked 6.4 version done by "Gabest". It will play far more file types than the basic M$ version (including FLV, DivX, and now Real Media formats). I don't think the Gabest people mess with it anymore, I believe another place has taken the project and now have the updates for it. It's even worse than taking over file associations. When I finally got MPC to play the Real Media files, the real M$ WMP XP version pulled its 'stunt' once again and tried to totally take over all video files. I couldn't click a video file without that POS putting up the "Setup Media Player" BS. This was after I had already deleted "wmplayer.exe" and "setup_wm.exe" files. I then remembered that those files also have to be deleted from the dllcache folder in order to finally rid yourself of its obnoxious intrusive behavior. I still had a problem with MPC playing .ram files. I would even right click and "Open with...", and MPC was not only not in the list, but even after browsing to its folder and SELECTING it, it still would not show up in the Programs list to play the file! I had to drag the .ram files to MPC to play them! So I had to go into the Registry to: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\mplayerc.ram\shell\open\command ("mplayerc" is MPC), and at the right pane put the path to the location of MPC in order to be able to simply click the .ram files and have MPC play them. It still had the path of XP's default WMP there. So if anyone has problems getting their media player to play certain files, check the keys for the file extensions in that Registry area and make sure the path is correct. -Clint God Bless, Clint Hamilton, Owner www.OrpheusComputing.com www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaulback" Ugh, I despise QuickTime/iTunes and WMP, all plagued with DRM. And, pretty much all programs want to take over file associations now. MS wanted to lock down all associations in windows 7 to MS defaults but they thought otherwise. Eventually ;) I use eMusic for music downloads, Winamp for audio playback, Exact Audio Copy or EAC for ripping, and DivX for video playback. Each is free and play pretty much every format available. However, whenever I want an audio stream from CBC I have to use Real Alternative but that has been quite awhile since many streams end up on Youtube now. Eventually they do. Peter Kaulback On 4/20/2009 12:21 AM, Hugh Vandervoort wrote: > I'd like to have all the time I wasted on Real Player and > getting it > under control. And don't get me started on Acrobat. > > I use Winamp almost exclusively. It handles most media types > and has > thousands of streaming radio stations and the ability to > record what you > hear. I haven't seen real player for years. > WMP is my choice for ripping, and VLC for all other media > chores except > recording, where I use Nero. > > > David Grossman wrote: >> I don't like either RealPlayer or QuickTime. They (and some >> other programs, >> most notably FLV players and some DVD players) automatically >> take over the >> Associations from other programs such as .WAV files, without >> asking >> permission. You then have to undo their mess by changing the >> Associations >> back, or by clicking on Open With... >> >> I don't like programs that take control over the computer >> away from me, even >> though it is correctable. I'd rather use an "inferior" >> product that is more >> polite. >> >> Clint's footer says "God Bless." Well, somehow, that's quite >> different from >> what I have in mind after I install those invasive, >> control-freak programs. >> >> David Grossman ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-