Re: [PCWorks] Vista with SP1
- From: Peter Kaulback <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:48:16 -0400
I've found in both Vista and XP that when fragmentation gets to be about
10% or more then a defrag is needed. Especially as most of the clients I
have do lots of audio/video editing and this tortures NTFS quickly while
doing little to HFS+ on the Mac or Ext2/3 on Linux, BTW both Mac and
Linux never need to be defragged (but thats another story...). If I ever
put a second drive in then the swap file goes there in it's own
partition, it's just easier overall.
And Ed has the right idea with Norton, as it is one of the sorriest
programs to remove completely, I've had so many complaints with it
either not coming out or blocking dialup altogether. Symantec has gone
downhill with this app and NIS too.
Peter Kaulback
Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
> ".....defragging is unnecessary for the most part". ??
>
> Do you mean just on Vista? I can't speak for it, but it is
> necessary for XP. Not doing so regularly can slow it down.
> The sequential reading/writing of data on a heavily fragmented
> HD is slowed down because the time needed for the disk heads to
> move between fragments and waiting for the disk platter to
> rotate into position is increased (increased seek time which is
> cumulative, and rotational delay). Defrag'ing can increase the
> life span of the HD, by minimizing the movement of the head(s).
> Of course this depends on the type of computing one does. If
> one rarely uses their PC, doesn't do much website wise and
> doesn't get many emails, defrag'ing would be rarely needed.
> But if one goes to dozens of websites a day, gets hundreds of
> emails, or does any kind of large audio or video compilation
> and editing, it's needed regularly. This is why I put OE's
> storage and the Temp Net files folder on a separate partition,
> along with video editing folders. C: doesn't need much
> defrag'ing, but that other partition needs it A LOT.
> -Clint
>
> God Bless
> Clint Hamilton, Owner
> http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
> http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hugh Vandervoort"
>
> I'm glad it's working for you. I'd really like to use Vista,
> and I'll
> get back to it one day, but the problems are not worth the
> effort at the
> moment.
> A couple of points:
> Vista doesn't install Norton. That's a Symantec product, and
> was almost
> certainly put there by HP.
> There are no good registry cleaners. They are unnecessary and
> more
> likely to screw up your system than to fix anything. Registry
> cleaning
> and defragging is unnecessary for the most part. Windows Vista
> includes
> an incredible array of support tools which should be thoroughly
> investigated before adding any third party software.
>
>
>
> ED GIBBS wrote:
>> Hugh, I have been using Vista with SP1 installed for 3-4
>> months on my HP
>> Laptop.
>> My Laptop purchased in Nov '07 came with Vista Home Premium
>> Installed,
>> but lots of problems.
>> So, I purchased a new 160GB WD hard drive and then installed
>> XP, which I
>> used until SP1
>> became available for Vista. I then shifted back to Vista and
>> installed
>> SP1 which is working perfectly.
>> I use Mozilla Firefox Browser & Thunderbird for my mail.
>> Memory 4GB, HD 160GB
>> I also use Advanced Windows Care which I run 2-3 times weekly
>> to
>> Check/Clean the Registry,
>> it also Defrags and does other system checks. To rid the
>> Vista system of
>> Norton which
>> is installed by Vista, I use a wonderful program "Absolute
>> Installer."
>> It is a "Must Have"
>> for me, as it will completely remove all Norton garbage and
>> clean the
>> registry.
>> Regards,
>> Ed
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