Thanks Hugh, John and Clint, I did finally get the IDE cable disconnected from the drive. It must not have been disconnected for ten years. Still having trouble getting the hard drive cage removed. I did manage to get the front off with those six clips, why in the world would they even make something like that! I'll keep looking for the seven screws to get the cage out. Tom ** Message Separater ** >Tom you may have to get someone to help with those screws or >to find out why the cable won't come loose. I looked over >those URL's John gave and according to them there doesn't >seem to be any reason why the cable shouldn't just pull out. >This is if it's IDE. "snip" >As for removing the drive, it's one of those complicated >cages with several screws here and there, so someone may have >to point those out to you. ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts.