Thanks for all this info - I'm checking mail quickly as have to leave for an out of state grandchild graudation and won't be back until tomorrow evening. I hadn't expected her to give me the link over the phone as thought there would be one on their site they could give me - they did that before when I just had their anti-spyware/malware program. Actually she did give me an incident number the first time and that is how they were able to find the problem so quickly with the second call. I have to admit I didn't think of using the online chat because all I could visualize was my totally unprotected computer I wanted protected :-) I figured out that once I installd the toolbar, it is now picking up the spam and phishing and when I see something wrongly placed I just tell them it is or is not spam and they remember it just fine. All in all I don't regret purchasing it and now (I know this will jinx me as sure as green apples are bitter!) I hope it doesn't go bad like Panda did. I loved that program the first 16 months and from then on it was downhill. I had the Trend Micro antispyware/malware for 2 years and it stayed as good as day one so I am hoping the system does also. What I have noticed is when I reboot, every thing comes up in half the time it did when I had Panda so guess it was somewhat of a resource hog. I'm wondering if I should be checking to see if there is any Panda stuff left behind but I'm not having any problems so I'm figuring it's all gone. I did run a search just using the word 'panda' and deleted everything I found and I don't think it's as hard to get rid of as Norton's. Dolores ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilcox" <Dwilcox3@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Trend Micro and tech support comments. > As far as I know, all internet security suites ( a security suite is a > software package that does more than one thing) have at least one feature > that is incompatible with every other security suite. However, as far as > I > know, not every install program will uninstall (or at least ask you to > manually uninstall) offending software. It may not recognize all of them. > And, not all uninstalls, including your own manual uninstalls, will > actually > remove everything that needs to be uninstalled. Even the Norton Removal > Tool, which brags that it removes everything Norton, left traces behind > that > needed to be removed before I could properly install Trend Micro. Trend > Micro support identified the culprit, told me where to find it and how to > remove it. > > Trend Micro emailed you the link, because it is too lengthy to provide > over > the phone because it would be too easy for you to make a mistake writing > it > down and then typing it into your browser. The link they sent you was > probably to download the very latest updated install package (which also > happens to be Vista certified version). > > I installed TrendMicro on 5 computers. Two had problems. One with the > traces left behind by Norton. All 5 had Norton installed, don't know why > only one had problems. Trend Micro support was VERY hepful. Of course, I > used email and chat support instead of telephone so I could better > understand the broken English. I always got prompt replies. > > To get the anti-spam to work you need to activate it. If you can't find > it > in the configuration or in the help files let me know. > > Please read carefully all you can find about certain features in > TrendMicro > (and other products). Specifically the Website filter and the phishing > alert as well as website access controls and data theft prevention. You > will discover they make frequent and lengthy referrals to an internet > based > list of offending sites and content. This may seriously impact the speed > of > your computer. On one computer I installed on, it went from fast to > extremely slow. I had to uninstall TrendMicro and reinstall without > activating those features to fix the problem. I don't know which one or > combination caused the problem, I just left all 4 deactivated and the > problem went away. I left them deactivated on the other 4 computers as > well > so I don't know if the problem was uniques to a specific computer > configuration or if it is a common problem across different > configurations. > > Every computer is different. Even if it is exactly the same as mine, it > is > still different. Your experience will most likely be different than mine. > > Technical support via email or online chat sessions is far superior to > that > received over the phone. Online chat sessions get connected within a > couple > of minutes. And sometimes the tech is able to access your computer to > physically see what is happening. Telephone support may take an hour or > more and is dependent upon you accurately understanding the technician and > accurately performing the steps instructed. Email is far slower than the > phone but is far easier to understand and you can read it 3 or 4 times to > be > sure you do things exactly right. With both chat and email you have a > record of what transpired. With the phone it is your word against theirs. > > Don -- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/