Hey, if your Apprentice did take out one of the fir trees, I’ll volunteer my
Apprentice to take out the other fir.
Rick
From: Tom Speer
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:25 PM
To: orcachat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [orcachat] Re: Lifting contest
Home Depot has steel bars that are 1/8" thick. I'm thinking they could be
applied with double-sided tape.
With steel joiners and steel bars on the wing, maybe it really could take on
that fir tree!
Cheers,
Tom
On 9/17/19 12:04 PM, Jake Boyd wrote:
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On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:45, Jake Boyd <dyob42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Agreed.....wheels could be used for added weight but will need counter
ballast since they will be either forward or aft of CG depending on nose or
tail wheel. Fairings good for weight.
Flat sheet lead could cover part of center section.
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On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:26, Tom Speer <me@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, larger diameter wheels would help. I'm thinking they could be
housed in Northrop Gamma style fairings. The wheels could be heavy and the
fairings hold ballast, too.
Based on the 4+ lb gross weight that's flown with the stock wing (from a
paved runway), I'm thinking we may be looking at a 10+ lb plane. I'm starting
to wonder where we can put all that weight.
Cheers,
Tom
On 9/17/19 11:14 AM, Jake Boyd wrote:
Perhaps very low drag but large diameter wheels would help 8” to 10”
diameter perhaps.
Any thoughts?
Jake
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On Sep 17, 2019, at 10:52, Tom Speer <me@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In this case, I'm more concerned with takeoff than landing. I don't
think we can get a heavily loaded Mini-Apprentice to take off on our grass
runway. It is hard enough as it is to get the plane to roll at its light
weight. I'm also concerned that, even with the east alders removed, we won't
have a clear path to depart after takeoff. But rolling is the biggest problem.
I see two solutions. One is to go to another venue to make the
loaded flights. I've not been to the Chimicum field, yet, but while I've heard
it is windy there, they may have a smoother runway and more open flying area.
There are probably other fields in the area that have paved or geotextile
surfaces.
The other solution is to put down a smoother surface on our runway.
We decided not to go with a geotextile surface because of the cost, but I am
going to look at Home Depot to see what they might have in way of a cheaper
alternative. We don't need something that will last, and we don't need it to
be wide enough to land on. It just needs to be something we can put down for
loaded takeoffs and then pack up at the end of the day.
Cheers,
Tom
On 9/16/19 4:41 PM, Thomas Condon wrote:
Tom,
Don't have runway envy. Tarmac runways do much more damage on a
rough landing than grass!
The Other Tom!
On Sep 16, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Tom Speer <me@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have runway envy!
It's clear we will need provision for a lot more weight than will
fit inside the wing. Probably a ballast box like they have, and maybe some
ballast boxes out on the wings, too. I'm thinking Northrop Gamma style wheel
pants that come down from where the tail booms mount.
Cheers,
Tom
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