Ah, but don't you know, you can only change the password once every 3-5 days, and the last 10 have to be different. That's also supposed to be SOX. Then again, I can't see the harm of a "temporary" change. I used to do that often. Root/happy, system/funny, etc. Michael Kline Principal Consultant Business to Business Solutions 13308 Thornridge Ct Midlothian, VA 23112 O: 804.744.1545 Fax: 804.763.0114 _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nancy Iles Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:37 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Splitting production and development/test at the DBA level? Does option 'C' exist? I am not very fond of either option 'A' or 'B'! Thanks for the feedback, Nancy _____ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:18:04 -0500 From: tomday2@xxxxxxxxx To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Splitting production and development/test at the DBA level? The way that I've seen the cloning issue handled is either; A - The production DBA does the cloning and sets the passwords to something innocuous before handing over to the development DBA or B- The production DBA temporarily changes the paswords in production, takes the backup and hands it and the temporary passwords over to the development DBA to do the development database build, and then sets the production database passwords to something different. _____ Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search Try it now! <http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG>