Re: Pure Storage opinions

  • From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx, David Green <thump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:26:54 -0600

Not sure why Delphix got dragged into this thread, but I'll be your huckleberry...

Commvault is indeed a big old company and Delphix only started in 2008, but it's questionable where the advantage lies.

New companies are created either because bigger older companies have left a sizable gap or because technology evolves and does things better, leapfrogging older technology. So, while bigger older companies improve incrementally, new companies either exploit the gap, or leapfrog with the new technology, or both. If it works, the older companies fade. If it doesn't, the newer companies die.

So I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Either way, it's not going to be decided on this email list. So peace, and have a nice weekend.



On 4/23/16 00:11, Mladen Gogala wrote:

Well, this list has turned into a Sears, Roebuck & Delphix catalog. I wanted to add Commvault to the mix, for several reasons:

 1. Commvault is an order of magnitude larger than Delphix, measuring
    both by revenue and the number of customers. We have many more
    customers and are much better known. Reading this list, one would
    be tempted to conclude exactly the opposite.
 2. Commvault is an Oracle platinum partner. So is Delphix.
 3. Commvault is much older company than Delphix, with the history
    reaching to the good, old Ma Bell and USL.
 4. Delphix is not a full-fledged backup suite which you can use to
    archive your mailboxes in Exchange or Domino. Delphix is a
    database specialist. In addition to Delphix, a traditional backup
    suite is also needed.

So, by following this group, one could conclude that Delphix is the dominant juggernaut and Commvault a tiny upstart fighting for its place under the sun. That perception is very wrong and I did my best to rectify it. And yes, I am a Commvault employee. No big secrets there.


On 4/23/2016 12:29 AM, David Green wrote:
I see what you did there.  Tsk tak

Thanks
David

On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My understanding is that the original poster asked about the Pure storage, not HDS, XtremIO,3Par or NetApp. Am I in the wrong mailing list? This looks like the storage salespeople convention. Are there any snacks and T-Shirts? Having said that, I have nothing against Hitachi, Dell, HP or NetApp. As a consultant for a backup vendor, I encountered all of them. While I was a DBA, I was annoying the heck of storage sales people by requesting demos using the local application mix and asking questions about IOPS. My guess is that the original poster will have to do the same. Whatever he decides, Commvault can back it up and can integrate with the storage snapshots.


On 04/21/2016 03:46 AM, Ls Cheng wrote:
I have a customer who uses HDS VSP G1000, All-Flash and the latency is great, average 0.2ms for log parallel writes and 0.3ms for log file sync, 0.6ms for db sequential/scattered read. The databases is a 4 nodes RAC, 14000 IOPS where average 9000 is redo log writes.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Thump CC <thump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Along with the new kid on the block(D5) it’s also worth looking
    at ExtremIO and 3PAR

    > On Apr 20, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mladen Gogala
    <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >
    > On 04/20/2016 03:27 PM, Jeff Chirco wrote:
>> Anyone use or used Pure Storage for your database storage? We currently have NetApp and it is coming on a hardware refresh
    so we are looking around. We've looked at the ZFS which seems
    really nice, a little more expensive than we though but great
    for Oracle database.  Now my system admins are looking at Pure
    Storage as a possibility as well. From what I read it seems
    like a all flash system and apparently hardware freshes are
    built into the support contract. Let me know if you have any
    onions.
    >> Currently we are running Oracle on Windows Server 2008r2
    with 11.2.0.4 but moving all over to Oracle Linux and
    eventually 12c.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> Jeff
    >
    > Hi Jeff!
    > I don't have any onions, but I can offer some scallions. As a
    consultant working for a backup vendor, I have encountered Pure
    several times and all the customers that I know of are very
    happy. Pure is very fast and very reliable. Administration
    interface is fairly intuitive and it supports everything that
    other storage support.
    > Regards
    >
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