I have a feeling, Mladen, that you're as concerned about Delphix marketing
like Trump is concerned about his little hands.
I work for Oracle and I still can have a non-competitive, but honest
discussion about products.
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On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Andrew,
This is not a fight, I am just objecting to the pure and unadulterated
Dephix marketing on this list. This comes and goes in waves. As far as the
difference between Commvault and Delphix goes, both products do database
cloning, both by using storage snapshot technology. Commvault doesn't do
any masking of the data, but as far as cloning goes, the two products do
overlap. And with the modern technology, lines between "backups" and
"clones" have been more than blurred.
Reading this group, my impression was that Delphix is web-scale, just
like in the famous YT clip "mongodb is web scake". I usually do not
engage in marketing on this list, this "fight" is just a reaction to a bit
too much of a marketing on this group.
Regards
On 4/23/2016 12:13 PM, Andrew Kerber wrote:
I don't have a dog in this fight, but frankly Commvault and Delphix are
two different solutions to two different problems. I know of several places
that use both. Commvault is a backup solution, Delphix is a cloning and
masking solution.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 23, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Tim Gorman < <tim@xxxxxxxxx>tim@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Not sure why Delphix got dragged into this thread, but I'll be your
huckleberry...
Commvault is indeed a big old company and Delphix only started in 2008,
but it's questionable where the advantage lies.
New companies are created either because bigger older companies have left
a sizable gap or because technology evolves and does things better,
leapfrogging older technology. So, while bigger older companies improve
incrementally, new companies either exploit the gap, or leapfrog with the
new technology, or both. If it works, the older companies fade. If it
doesn't, the newer companies die.
So I guess we'll see how it plays out.
Either way, it's not going to be decided on this email list. So peace,
and have a nice weekend.
On 4/23/16 00:11, Mladen Gogala wrote:
Well, this list has turned into a Sears, Roebuck & Delphix catalog. I
wanted to add Commvault to the mix, for several reasons:
1. Commvault is an order of magnitude larger than Delphix, measuring
both by revenue and the number of customers. We have many more customers
and are much better known. Reading this list, one would be tempted to
conclude exactly the opposite.
2. Commvault is an Oracle platinum partner. So is Delphix.
3. Commvault is much older company than Delphix, with the history
reaching to the good, old Ma Bell and USL.
4. Delphix is not a full-fledged backup suite which you can use to
archive your mailboxes in Exchange or Domino. Delphix is a database
specialist. In addition to Delphix, a traditional backup suite is also
needed.
So, by following this group, one could conclude that Delphix is the
dominant juggernaut and Commvault a tiny upstart fighting for its place
under the sun. That perception is very wrong and I did my best to rectify
it. And yes, I am a Commvault employee. No big secrets there.
On 4/23/2016 12:29 AM, David Green wrote:
I see what you did there. Tsk tak
Thanks
David
On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:05 PM, Mladen Gogala < <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My understanding is that the original poster asked about the Pure storage,
not HDS, XtremIO,3Par or NetApp. Am I in the wrong mailing list? This looks
like the storage salespeople convention. Are there any snacks and T-Shirts?
Having said that, I have nothing against Hitachi, Dell, HP or NetApp. As a
consultant for a backup vendor, I encountered all of them. While I was a
DBA, I was annoying the heck of storage sales people by requesting demos
using the local application mix and asking questions about IOPS. My guess
is that the original poster will have to do the same. Whatever he decides,
Commvault can back it up and can integrate with the storage snapshots.
On 04/21/2016 03:46 AM, Ls Cheng wrote:
I have a customer who uses HDS VSP G1000, All-Flash and the latency is
great, average 0.2ms for log parallel writes and 0.3ms for log file sync,
0.6ms for db sequential/scattered read. The databases is a 4 nodes RAC,
14000 IOPS where average 9000 is redo log writes.
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Thump CC < <thump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
thump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Along with the new kid on the block(D5) it’s also worth looking at
ExtremIO and 3PAR
On Apr 20, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
currently have NetApp and it is coming on a hardware refresh so we are
On 04/20/2016 03:27 PM, Jeff Chirco wrote:
Anyone use or used Pure Storage for your database storage? We
looking around. We've looked at the ZFS which seems really nice, a little
more expensive than we though but great for Oracle database. Now my system
admins are looking at Pure Storage as a possibility as well. From what I
read it seems like a all flash system and apparently hardware freshes are
built into the support contract. Let me know if you have any onions.
but moving all over to Oracle Linux and eventually 12c.Currently we are running Oracle on Windows Server 2008r2 with 11.2.0.4
consultant working for a backup vendor, I have encountered Pure several
Thanks,
Jeff
Hi Jeff!
I don't have any onions, but I can offer some scallions. As a
times and all the customers that I know of are very happy. Pure is very
fast and very reliable. Administration interface is fairly intuitive and it
supports everything that other storage support.
Regards
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