Is Java a step back in time?? When I was programming ( before COBOL programming) I used Informix and that was labeled a 4GL. Did I miss something during the years between COBOL programming and Oracle DBA jobs? Ron >>> thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/31/2004 1:48:34 PM >>> It had it's time, just like the dinosaurs did. But nature selected it for extinction (I really shouldn't say that - there are probably a couple bi-jillion lines of Cobol code still in use today - and doing a fine job. The bad news is that you can't find anyone to keep it up to date). Don't bad mouth it. But I agree with you about Java. We ran away from Cobol (and all the other 3GL languages) because they were hard to maintain. And we are right back in the thick of it with the current set of 3GL's (NOBODY can convince me that Java is not a 3GL). Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:Mladen.Gogala@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:34 PM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Outer Joins are Evil? Speaking of COBOL, it is the first truly portable and truly disgusting computer language, designed by bureaucrats. Java is an apparent heir to the throne long held by COBOL. -- Mladen Gogala A & E TV Network Ext. 1216 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercadante, Thomas F > [mailto:thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:28 PM > To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: RE: Outer Joins are Evil? > > > Karen, > > The design flaw mentioned by the writer sounds like a > tip'o'the'hat to Cobol programmers who still do not > understand relational tables, and don't want to learn. They > want to get "records" of data from the database without > having to worry about how to get it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------