RE: Outer Joins are Evil?

  • From: "Ron Rogers" <RROGERS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:52:12 -0400

Is Java a step back in time?? When I was programming ( before COBOL
programming)
 I used Informix and that was labeled a 4GL. Did I miss something
during the  years between
COBOL programming and Oracle DBA jobs?
Ron

>>> thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/31/2004 1:48:34 PM >>>
It had it's time, just like the dinosaurs did.  But nature selected it
for
extinction (I really shouldn't say that - there are probably a couple
bi-jillion lines of Cobol code still in use today - and doing a fine
job.
The bad news is that you can't find anyone to keep it up to date).

Don't bad mouth it.  But I agree with you about Java.  We ran away
from
Cobol (and all the other 3GL languages) because they were hard to
maintain.
And we are right back in the thick of it with the current set of 3GL's
(NOBODY can convince me that Java is not a 3GL).

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-----Original Message-----
From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:Mladen.Gogala@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:34 PM
To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Outer Joins are Evil?


Speaking of COBOL, it is the first truly portable and truly 
disgusting computer language, designed by bureaucrats. Java is an
apparent
heir to the throne long held by COBOL.

--
Mladen Gogala
A & E TV Network
Ext. 1216


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mercadante, Thomas F
> [mailto:thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:28 PM
> To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: Outer Joins are Evil?
> 
> 
> Karen,
> 
> The design flaw mentioned by the writer sounds like a
> tip'o'the'hat to Cobol programmers who still do not 
> understand relational tables, and don't want to learn.  They 
> want to get "records" of data from the database without 
> having to worry about how to get it.
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