Reason # 13 and #14 #13 - It is too expensive to travel from Toronto to California and IT travel budgets are under scrutiny and NoCOUG can't approve our travel :) #14 - This might start a debate .... good people who would appreciate and understand and can *apply* what is learned at NoCOUG are choosing not to be Oracle DBAs (and may be Developers?) or those who are already in the field are choosing not to invest lots of time and efforts to keep on the cutting edge because they know the return on investment from this career path is low and is diminishing.The organizations are not willing to pay well unless you are a well recognized expert like Jonathan Lewis because they know that after paying big bucks they just might get someone like (I am afraid to write the name here but you know!). To be fair to the organizations, with latest versions of Oracle database, storage technologies and tools there is only need of 1 (expert) : 5 ("normal") DBA (or may be even 10)?. In Toronto, from where I am, lots of my good DBA friends have changed careers or graduated to managerial role where career path is progressive. The only left behind are those who can't switch roles or who love technology for the sake of technology. I would like to hear more what others have to say. Thanks Paresh Canada - 416-688-1003 USA - 408-351-6896 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Iggy Fernandez <iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > #12 All NoCOUG emails automatically go to your spam folder, including this > one. You rely on Outlook for career guidance. > > #11 They wont send a stretch limousine to pick you up and take you back. > > #10 They talked up SQL for 25 years but now, theyre all, like, No SQL. > I mean, really! > > #9 Youre too busy to learn. (A very good problem to have!) > > #8 Your head is exploding with knowledge already. (Another very good > problem to have!) > > #7 Its always the same people there, like Iggy and Kamran. (We totally > understand but we cant tell them to stop coming, can we?) > > #6 You were there the day NoCOUG webmaster Eric Hutchinson sang the theme > song from Cheers Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your > name. You dont ever want to hear Eric sing again. Ever! > > #5 The food is just too good. You eat to live, not live to eat. (Good for > you!) > > #4 You dont appreciate being bribed with free raffle prizes like iPads, > Oracle Press teddy bears, and Oracle Press books. (The world needs more > upright and honest people!) > > #3 Youve been going for 25 years already; its time for a change. Youre > going to AARP meetings now (American Association of Retired Persons). > > #2 Youve finally converted your company to Excel spreadsheets. So much > cheaper and easier to use! > > But the #1 reason not to attend the NoCOUG conference tomorrow is: > > #1 You thought that NoCOUG was the North Carolina Oracle Users Group on > the East coast. > > P.S. Seriously, write to us at contact_nocoug@xxxxxxxxxx and tell us > where we could do better: Topics? Speakers? Location? Cost? Food? Website? > Service? -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l