RE: OT: Twelve good reasons NOT to attend the NoCOUG conference tomorrow
- From: "Patterson, Joel" <jpatterson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx" <iggy_fernandez@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "yparesh@xxxxxxxxx" <yparesh@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:00:11 -0400
Geez... You don't know what you got til its gone... so be careful. There is
no users group in Jacksonville, FL. I understand there used to be one a
couple years before I arrived, but something happened -- so now I'm that much
more unedumicated.
Tampa and Orlando had some, but to echo an earlier comment, that's a long way
to drive for an OUG.
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Iggy Fernandez
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:03 PM
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Subject: RE: OT: Twelve good reasons NOT to attend the NoCOUG conference
tomorrow
The posting was the content of an email that was sent to the NoCOUG contact
list most of whom are local. It always disconcerts me that participation is so
low compared to the sheer number of Oracle professionals in this area. The
questions in my mind are:
How much value is there in participating in the local Oracle users group
whether that be Northern California or North Carolina?
Could we be doing a better job in the areas of topics, speakers, locations,
cost, food, website, service, etc.
And, how do we contact more people who might want to participate?
Iggy
> Reason # 13 and #14
> #13 - It is too expensive to travel from Toronto to California and IT
> travel budgets are under scrutiny and NoCOUG can't approve our travel
> :)
> #14 - This might start a debate .... good people who would appreciate
> and understand and can *apply* what is learned at NoCOUG are choosing
> not to be Oracle DBAs (and may be Developers?) or those who are
> already in the field are choosing not to invest lots of time and
> efforts to keep on the cutting edge because they know the return on
> investment from this career path is low and is diminishing.The
> organizations are not willing to pay well unless you are a well
> recognized expert like Jonathan Lewis because they know that after
> paying big bucks they just might get someone like (I am afraid to
> write the name here but you know!). To be fair to the organizations,
> with latest versions of Oracle database, storage technologies and
> tools there is only need of 1 (expert) : 5 ("normal") DBA (or may be
> even 10)?. In Toronto, from where I am, lots of my good DBA friends
> have changed careers or graduated to managerial role where career path
> is progressive. The only left behind are those who can't switch roles or who
> love technology for the sake of technology. I would like to hear more what
> others have to say.
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