Kathy, I appreciate your ideas, but I think the fact is that Oracle pushed this on us against our will and it was clearly not ready for production, no matter how many of us logged into it and alpha tested it for them, and they haven't made any public apology that I've seen. A simple apology goes a long way. I can tell you that if I hosed something up this bad for just one of my customers, I and my managers and probably even the executives would be on the phone personally apologizing and taking full accountability for the issue. The users are not to blame for this disaster at all, whether they logged in to MOS in advance or not. Sure, they may be responsible for small things like not knowing where to access certain bits and pieces, but that isn't what we're talking about here and it has nothing to do with the fact that the entire system has been barely useable at all for almost an entire week. I give everyone on this list the benefit of the doubt that they are providing detailed explanations of problems to Oracle Support when they can get through to them that is. Also, I (and probably most others on this list) did logon long in advance, and I tested everything I needed and it was working okay, albeit very slowly, and not compatible with IE8 - but nothing like the problems that started when they went live. Regards, Brandon ________________________________ Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.