I complained yesterday about the cost of the productivity packs. I think you have to have those also to manage the patch updates as well. I only had about three responses which gave me the impression that it wasn't being used very much and that not many people were using the add-ons. They are crazy expensive. Most of the features I need Toad provides for about $2500. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Still Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:17 PM To: Oracle-L Freelists Subject: Re: Grid Control - opinions please Hmmm... Two hours and no responses. GC does not appear to be in wide use. On 4/5/06, Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: Well, is that subject a loaded question, or what? Background: I have never used OEM. Well, I have actually, but only long enough to try it and discard it because I didn't like it too much. I've been told that GC is completely re-written and a much better product than OEM. What I want to find out is if there is some community concensus to back up that claims. Let's assume none of the add-on packs ($$$$) will be used, and RAC is not involved. What does GC bring to the table that is worthwhile in your opinion? I was also told that GC could be used to (easily?) download and apply Critical Patch Updates. Maybe not quite automated, but simplified at least. Has anyone experienced that? It was also stated that this beast would require 8Gig of RAM, which seems rather excessive. TIA, -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist -- Jared Still Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist