RE: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring

  • From: "Baumgartel, Paul" <paul.baumgartel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:47:56 -0400

But isn't mirroring and striping most of what ASM does?  Wasn't it
intended to eliminate the need to purchase an expensive SAN?
 
I understand that many people use ASM in conjunction with Symmetrix,
etc., but I don't see how just pooling the storage and presenting it to
the database is worth the effort (and the limitations, as there are
certain operations in, e.g., RMAN, that aren't supported with ASM).
 

Paul Baumgartel 
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bobak, Mark
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:59 AM
To: peter.schauss@xxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring



Peter,

 

Where in the documentation do you see Oracle having a bias towards ASM
doing mirroring?

 

I ask cause several Oracle folks I talked to, and an Oracle "best
practices" presentation I saw a while ago, all say the same thing.  That
being, if you already have a well-designed SAN, use external redundancy
in ASM, and let the SAN do all the mirroring and striping.

 

That's where we're at, as well.  SAN does all mirroring and striping.
ASM just pools the storage and makes it available to the database.

 

-Mark

 

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schauss, Peter
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:34 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: ASM - hardware mirroring vs. Oracle mirroring

 

I am starting to investigate ASM as a part of a potential 8.1.7.4 to 10g
upgrade on Solaris (SunOs 5.9).  Oracle's documentation seems to have a
bias toward having the ASM instance handle the mirroring while our UNIX
support people would prefer to do it at the hardware level.  Which is
preferable and what factors would push a decision in one direction or
the other?

Thanks, 
Peter Schauss 


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