Dear fellow Ultrasonographers With the credentials of ROUB and CDOS under my belt I believe I can speak with some authority regarding the various ophthalmic ultrasound manufacturers. I would hesitate to make a statement that "Ellex is the US of choice". Just as with fundus imaging systems, there are many variables- functionality, portability, service, DICOM, network capabilities, and price. There are currently FIVE viable vendors for ophthalmic Ultrasonography instrumentation. I can say truthfully I have used them all, and currently utilize Accutome, Quantel and Ellex in my diagnostic Center. The reason for so many is varied, again, the parallels to our fundus imaging can be made. The right tool for the right task. Why do I not ALSO have a Sonomed? The reasons are simple, at the time of purchase, the other vendors suited my needs. This is not to say that I would not also confidently recommend Sonomed in a given situation. I also utilize the IOL Master and the Haag Streit Lenstar for Biometry. Again, the right instrument for a specific task. So, lets us keep an open mind and as we respect our ophthalmic imaging vendors let us also give our Ultrasonography brethren the opportunity to convince us on their merits as to which device works best in a given practice. Respectfully, Denice Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center CPMC Department of Ophthalmology 2100 Webster Street Suite 212 San Francisco CA 94115 (415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563 From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Elrod Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:00 AM To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [optimal] Re: DICOM and Ultrasound Machines Hi Alexis, 3k is about the going rate for a DICOM license no matter what you are purchasing. I work with a verity of accounts and it seems like the Ellex is the US of choice. If you don't get the DICOM license you will need to use a third party tool to bring the data into a Data management system. This means the instrument DB is left with potential errors with regards to patient demographics. Eventually DICOM will end up being a standard feature on ever instrument that is created once the Ophthalmology community demands this. Thanks, Carl Zeiss Meditec Inc. Enterprise Account Manager Data Management\FORUM 5160 Hacienda Drive Dublin, CA 94568 Michael Elrod Desk Phone: +1 925.557.4856 Cell Phone: +1 925.858.1762 Fax: +1 925.557.4652 mailto:m.elrod@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.meditec.zeiss.com<http://www.meditec.zeiss.com/> From: "Cullen, Alexis" <smithcra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 11/29/2012 07:33 AM Subject: [optimal] Re: DICOM and Ultrasound Machines Sent by: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ Hi Everyone! Thanks Peter! I probably should give a little more information : ) The ultrasound needs to have UBM and Standardized A-scan for tissue sensitivity. I've looked up units online, but I've found that sales reps haven't given me accurate information about how seamless their "DICOM" feature is. When we first bought Ellex's EyeCubed machine we were told by our rep it was DICOM compatible and seamlessly integrated into Symphony (without needing to manually enter in patient data) . . . that turned out to be inaccurate. Their new upgrade is supposed to have this feature . . . for $3,000. I'm hopeful that I can get a few reviews via the community here so that I have other options : ) Thanks! Alexis From: <Breit>, Peter <BreitP@xxxxxxxx<mailto:BreitP@xxxxxxxx>> Reply-To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:20 AM To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: [optimal] Re: DICOM and Ultrasound Machines Check out Accutome. Their B-scan is essentially a laptop with a probe attached. You believe can send the file as pictures or movie. And the price is right too. http://www.accutome.com/product/b-scan-plus Thank you Peter Peter L. Breit, CRA. Director Ophthalmic Services The Lankenau Hospital & Bryn Mawr Hospital 484-476-3338 484-476-8206 fax 484-437-3262 mobile page 3707 ________________________________ From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>[mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cullen, Alexis Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:55 AM To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [optimal] DICOM and Ultrasound Machines Hi Fellow Optimalers, Is there anyone out there using an ultrasound machine with DICOM compatibility that connects seamlessly with their EMR and/or image viewing system? We've been using Ellex and are looking to purchase a new unit; however, they are charging 3,000 extra to ship the unit with their new DICOM update. I'd like to find out if there are other viable options. It seems with meaningful use etc, this should be a standard feature. Thanks group! 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