[opendtv] Re: Royalties
- From: "Allen Le Roy Limberg" <allimberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:50:29 -0400
I was told some years ago by RCA LIcensing Corp. attorneys that the proposed
pool for ATSC patents never materialized, supposedly because of anti-trust
concerns.
Al Limberg
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:48 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties
> I don't recall any language on equal terms, and I recognize that there are
> ATSC patents in a pool, perhaps not all the essential ones.
>
> I could point out that the ATSC has just recently revised their implied
> licensing terms for participating in committees and subcommittees; IIRC,
the
> new language asserts equal terms.
>
> John Willkie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allen Le Roy Limberg" <allimberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:20 PM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties
>
>
> > ATSC requires agreement that inventions incorporated in its standards be
> > licensed to any and all on equal terms, as I recall.
> >
> > This would seem to make cross licensing deals a little complicated.
> >
> > Al Limberg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:07 PM
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties
> >
> >
> > > I believe it was recently stated that LG does not publicly divulge
> > > the ATSC licensing requirements but will only negotiate individually.
> > >
> > > - Tom
> > >
> > > John Willkie wrote:
> > >
> > > > no, we just need to get rid of your bullshit.
> > > >
> > > > The fact you cite is not a fact; it's a jaundiced view, based on a
> lack
> > of
> > > > understanding of IP, law, commerce, or rationality.
> > > >
> > > > The FCC -- with the possible exception of EAS and IBOC FM -- has
> already
> > > > required "fair and non-discriminatory" licensing in broadcast
systems
> > that
> > > > they adopt. At least, since they learned from the Stereo FM fiasco
of
> > the
> > > > 1980's.
> > > >
> > > > Just read the ATSC specs or the FCC orders that adopted them. The
> > language
> > > > is clear and quite evident.
> > > >
> > > > There's plenty of sunshine. Little to none of it appears to fall on
> > you.
> > > >
> > > > You and others rely on anonymous sources. Not I. I know more than
I
> > tell,
> > > > not less.
> > > >
> > > > John Willkie
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:46 PM
> > > > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>John Willkie wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>the issue of anonymous sources comes to mind ...
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>The fact the FCC could determine a standard where there was secret
> > > >>licensing with no "fair and non-discriminatory" clauses is already
> > > >>enough concern. Why do we have to rely on anonymous sources to
> > > >>determine the cost of going along with a federal mandate?
> > > >>
> > > >>Need some sunshine here.
> > > >>
> > > >>- Tom
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>John Willkie
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:29 PM
> > > >>>Subject: [opendtv] Royalties
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/one.php?id=2952
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>"Sources indicated that TV set manufacturers pay about $16 for the
> > > >>>>intellectual property rights for each ATSC receiver made. Zenith's
> > > >>>>portion of that for 8-VSB is in the neighborhood of $5,
> manufacturers
> > > >>>
> > > >>>say."
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Bob Miller
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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