[opendtv] Re: Royalties

  • From: "Allen Le Roy Limberg" <allimberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:20:31 -0400

ATSC requires agreement that inventions incorporated in its standards be
licensed to any and all on equal terms, as I recall.

This would seem to make cross licensing deals a little complicated.

Al Limberg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties


> I believe it was recently stated that LG does not publicly divulge
> the ATSC licensing requirements but will only negotiate individually.
>
> - Tom
>
> John Willkie wrote:
>
> > no, we just need to get rid of your bullshit.
> >
> > The fact you cite is not a fact; it's a jaundiced view, based on a lack
of
> > understanding of IP, law, commerce, or rationality.
> >
> > The FCC -- with the possible exception of EAS and IBOC FM -- has already
> > required "fair and non-discriminatory" licensing in broadcast systems
that
> > they adopt.  At least, since they learned from the Stereo FM fiasco of
the
> > 1980's.
> >
> > Just read the ATSC specs or the FCC orders that adopted them.  The
language
> > is clear and quite evident.
> >
> > There's plenty of sunshine.  Little to none of it appears to fall on
you.
> >
> > You and others rely on anonymous sources.  Not I.  I know more than I
tell,
> > not less.
> >
> > John Willkie
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:46 PM
> > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Royalties
> >
> >
> >
> >>John Willkie wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>the issue of anonymous sources comes to mind ...
> >>>
> >>
> >>The fact the FCC could determine a standard where there was secret
> >>licensing with no "fair and non-discriminatory" clauses is already
> >>enough concern.   Why do we have to rely on anonymous sources to
> >>determine the cost of going along with a federal mandate?
> >>
> >>Need some sunshine here.
> >>
> >>- Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>>John Willkie
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:29 PM
> >>>Subject: [opendtv] Royalties
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/one.php?id=2952
> >>>>
> >>>>"Sources indicated that TV set manufacturers pay about $16 for the
> >>>>intellectual property rights for each ATSC receiver made. Zenith's
> >>>>portion of that for 8-VSB is in the neighborhood of $5, manufacturers
> >>>
> >>>say."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Bob Miller
> >>>>
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