[opendtv] Re: News: Those licenses will soon be worthless...
- From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:44:34 -0400
Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
>John Shutt wrote:
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>>Unfortunately you don't understand the dynamics.
>>
>>We have been waiting in the United States since 1999 for
>>a working receiver. We still don't have one on the market.
>> COFDM would have changed that dynamic 6 years ago.
>>
>>
>
>Fairy tales, John. I don't believe that for a second. A
>working receiver was demonstrated, and when the manufacturer
>decided not to market the thing, the only loud complaints
>we heard were from a few zealots on AVS Forum. I checked the
>NAB site and found nothing on the subject. With Sinclair as
>the only exception, I have to believe that Craig is right on
>this one. Broadcasters are happier to retain the status quo.
>The big concern is to delay analog shutoff and get multicast
>must carry.
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>
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>>The only analogy one can draw with UHF and US DTV is the
>>tuner mandate.
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>>
>
>Yes, and I believe that after analog is shut off, DTT will be
>a good thing for broadcasters. But just like UHF, there's
>this chicken and egg problem to get over first.
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>>>Indoor reception of COFDM at that site is
>>>still "unproven" (therefore presumably impossible).
>>>
>>>
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>Tom Barry wrote:
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>>That statement is illogical. The conclusion does not
>>logically follow under any interpretation I can come up
>>with.
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>>We have no idea of what sort of reception to expect at
>>Mark's.
>>
>>
>
>Sorry, Tom, I'm simply being consistent with the prevalent
>sentiments on this site. No test results are deemed credible
>until demoed at Mark's apartment, and no product is deemed
>feasible until it sits on a store shelf.
>
>Bob Miller wrote:
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>>There is no cut off date in the UK and they have sold 6 million receivers.
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>Yes, Bob, we've been over this many times. There is a cultural difference
>between the UK, France, and Italy and
>other parts of Europe and the US. OTA is used a lot in the former countries,
>but not the latter. Why don't you argue
>with Frank Eory on this subject? He's said the same thing.
>
>Bert
>
The cultural differenced between the US and Europe are over stated and
in reverse. If COFDM had been allowed in the US our uptake would have
been faster than the UK or Berlin. We are more into TV, watch more and
spend a lot more on it. The US consumer would have/will go apes**t over
a Freeview plus TopUpTV offering. The only thing in the way is the
absence a decent receiver.
If COFDM had been allowed in 2000 there were a dozen companies who would
have been delivering innovative offerings over the last five years. One
of the strengths of the US would have been been this trying of many
ideas something that is not happening in other countries. By now much
would have been sorted out.
This could be happening in channels 51 and above but there to the
digital transtagnation has put innovation in cement boots. The breakout
will come one way or the other. Right now it is all about a decent
receiver. A good modulation or a decent 8-VSB receiver would both work.
Both are being delayed. You have to start wondering what is going on. As
soon as I talk to someone who could make such a receiver something
happens and the conversation drops. Interest is lost.
Have a new 5th gen receiver, new company, on the way BTW. Don't hope for
much but we will see.
Bob Miller
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