No substantial response from me, because I remember the earlier exchange, and Tom, who participated, did not. "He who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it." I could do a long discourse on the holding in the case, but like Prince Philip ordering the death of Princess Diana, it's off-topic here. John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de John Shutt Enviado el: Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:59 AM Para: OpenDTV Asunto: [opendtv] Re: News: NBC chief says Apple 'destroyed' music pricing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> You were speaking -- although you appear ignorant of it -- of the 1947 LA >> CIVIL suit over the LA Red car trolley lines. GM lost: they had to pay >> $1. >> > I was thinking of UNITED STATES V. NATIONAL CITY LINES. Is that the same > case? Yes, same case. GM, Firestone, Standard Oil, and Phillips Petroleum formed National City Lines, a Bus Company, and NCL bought out Streetcar franchises nationwide, including the LA Red trolley line. GM made National City Lines buy only GM busses. (Go figure.) That was found to be against antitrust laws, so GM was fined $5K, and each GM executive was fined a buck apiece. But the case spawned an industry of folklore of how GM killed off the trolley in the US, and if it weren't for nasty evil GM we'd still be able to ride trolleys today. There was a fairly long exchange here a few years back on the subject, and I hope I don't trigger a repeat performance. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.