[opendtv] Re: News: Dems Walk A Dangerous Path With Anti-Kerry-Film Complaint

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:32:55 -0400

I'm not entirely sure you can justify lies by pointing to other lies. 
Any attempt to do that loses credibility, effectively saying you think 
it is okay to make up damaging political fictions because someone else 
did it.

- Tom


Ralph P. Manfredo wrote:

> How come those that complain about the lack of truth being presented by the
> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have not complained about the anti-Bush pseudo
> documentary by the proctologists dream Michael Moore?  I believe this bears
> some recognition re: the lack equality by these outraged individuals.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Brian Park
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:44 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: Dems Walk A Dangerous Path With Anti-Kerry-Film
> Complaint
> 
> Here is what Stolen Honor is about. From today's washingtonmonthly.com
> 
> bp
> 
> SWIFT BOAT LIES....Like most bloggers, I have my beefs with the mainstream
> media. But you know what? They produce an awful lot of damn fine original
> reporting.
> 
> Case in point. In August the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth charged that John
> Kerry had lied about the events that led to his Silver Star. In order to
> figure out if the SBVT account was true, Nightline sent a crew to Vietnam,
> where they visited the hamlets of Tran Thoi and Nha Vi and interviewed the
> local villagers to get their recollections of what really happened 35 years
> ago. You can read the resulting story yourself, but it's summarized pretty
> easily: Kerry was right and SBVT honcho John O'Neill wasn't.
> 
> But there was also this:
> 
>   Back in Tran Thoi, villager Nguyen Van Khoai said that about six months
> ago he was visited by an American who described himself as a Swift boat
> veteran and told him another American from the Swift boats was running for
> president of the United States. Nguyen said the man was accompanied by a
> cameraman.
> 
>   "They say he didn't do anything to deserve the medal," Nguyen said. "The
> other day, they came and asked me the questions and I said that the
> recognition for the medal is up to the U.S.A."
> 
>   He said that, after they met, the Swift Boat veteran and the cameraman
> turned around and went back down the river. Nightline has not been able to
> identify the men.
> 
> Unbelievable. The SBVT folks, hoping to dig up dirt on Kerry, interviewed
> these villagers six months ago and have known the truth all along.
> 
> It wasn't just a case of differing recollections in the heat of the battle.
> They knew the truth. But they went ahead and told their lies anyway.
> 
> What a revolting bunch of men. What a disgusting, repellent, sleazy
> operation. And now Sinclair Broadcasting is about to air their movie.
> 
> Even worse, we still have three weeks to go. I wonder how much lower the
> Bush team and their surrogates can sink in that time? And I wonder what
> decent Republicans are going to do about it after Bush drags them down to
> defeat in November?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "OpenDTV Mail List" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:15 AM
> Subject: [opendtv] News: Dems Walk A Dangerous Path With Anti-Kerry-Film
> Complaint
> 
> 
> 
>>Via Shoptalk
>>
>>Dems Walk A Dangerous Path With Anti-Kerry-Film Complaint
>>Collin Levey
>>Seattle Times editorial columnist
>>
>>The late Chief Justice Warren Burger once remarked that "free speech
>>carries with it some freedom to listen." And, he might have added,
>>the freedom not to.
>>
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