I have sent this mail to Craig, Tom and Bob: (the files will probably soon appear on www.trbarry.com) Hello, At Craig's request: > If Tom and Jeroen have time to play, I would like to see a down/up > sample pass through 1024 x 576P. Here are the results: (2 files deleted) file <Leno_1080_576_1080p.jpg> was created 1920x1088 -> 1024x576p -> 1920x1088. It is still not quite as sharp as we had hoped ! Then I have also made file <Leno_1080_720_1080p.jpg> : 1920x1088 -> 1280x720p -> 1920x1088. Now that is finally almost as sharp as the original. It appears that we need 1280x720 pixels, that 1024x576 is just too little for this image. (But I am watching this on a 20" CRT in 1600x1200 resolution from 1 foot distance, so that is not fair even for HDTV !) > My educated guess is that it will be nearly impossible to see > the difference from the original. Well, you seem to have guessed wrong, but why ? This morning I have analysed my down- and up-sampling filters, and I have determined that the cascade of the two filters has a -3 dB point at 73% of the Nyquist limit of the down-sampled image. So even if you apply this filter at the original resolution, it is still a not neglegible low-pass filter. Unfortunately that is the price to pay for low-aliasing scaling, I can't do much better. Maybe that is why I need a 25% higher sample rate to get the sort of sharpness that you educatedly guessed. Regards, -- Jeroen +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | From: Jeroen H. Stessen | E-mail: Jeroen.Stessen@xxxxxxxxxxx | | Building: SFJ-5.22 Eindhoven | Deptmt.: Philips Applied Technologies | | Phone: ++31.40.2732739 | Visiting & mail address: Glaslaan 2 | | Mobile: ++31.6.44680021 | NL 5616 LW Eindhoven, the Netherlands | | Pager: ++31.6.65133818 | Website: http://www.apptech.philips.com/ | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.