[opendtv] Re: ISPs denied entry into apartment buildings could get help from FCC
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 01:18:46 +0000
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
The reality is that the Internet happened because the world
was looking for something to replace the expensive monopoly
telco services that were designed almost a century earlier
to allow people to talk to each other.
Sorry, Craig, but What a load of crap. You invented all of that. And you
thought that broadcast ATSC and DVB TV was "part of the Internet," so clearly
had no clue.
The original ARPANET was designed as a research network, purely packet
switched, which was used to link up mainframe computers throughout the country.
It operated entirely over leased telephone lines for the long haul, and mostly
Ethernet LANs locally. People had access to it via accounts on mainframes,
either sitting at the computer's own operator interface, or linked to the
computer remotely, with a terminal device (like a VT 100) or later, a PC
emulating such a device.
Back then, people could gain access to such mainframes over dialup telephone
lines and modems, without having to go into the computer room.
The key point being, when commercial interests were allowed into the Internet,
there was no guarantee that these commercial interests would keep it neutral,
like the research net that it originated from. Companies like AOL weren't held
to any neutrality mandate, and they tried to create a different reality. It was
only competition that forced that openness to happen. As always Craig, you have
a problem understanding cause and effect.
The proper way to deal with this is NOT to depend on five (three
at the moment) unelected regulators at an agency that sits atop
shifting political sands. Congress is the place to have an
educated debate that can lead to rules that are codified in
Again, Craig talking out of both sides of his mouth. The original ARPANET
needed no Congress or no FCC to make it neutral. It was neutral because those
using it needed it to be that way. Commercial interests were not involved. The
original publically-available Internet also did not need any Congress of FCC to
make it neutral, simply because ample competition (thanks only to neutral
dialup lines) was there to make it so. The reality today is that ample
competition for access does not exist.
I don't much care whether it's lawyers in Congress, or lawyers at the FCC, that
write the neutrality rules, Craig. The FCC should be the experts, where
Congress has more of the politician blowhards, so the two could work together.
The fact that you think the government needs to be involved is enough to
demonstrate you have lost your argument. And yet, you persist.
Then it is up to the FTC to enforce these rules.
That's still government involvement, and the FTC does not regulate operation of
the telecoms, nor does it want to. If you could be more parsimonious in your
prose, Craig, you might not get wrapped around the axle quite so much, eh?
Bottom line: Craig agrees that the government has to become involved in
guaranteeing net neutrality. That's fine with me.
End of thread.
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