http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/13/round-one-goes-to-the-hackers-backuphddvd-rips-open-aacs/ Just to prove what a waste of time copyprotection is. Trust the consumers. Just because 1% pirate the product doesn't mean the other 99% should have to bear the cost. This was indeed a fudge with version 6.5 of a certain company's HD-DVD Windows software player. It's Xing all over again. Cheers Kon