[opendtv] Re: Blue Ray and HD DVD regional coding
- From: "Barry Wilkins" <barry.barrywilkins@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:34:36 +1200
Thanks John and Mark,
I have already approached Philips through the channel suggested. They had
the not unexpected reply of..."We'll have to get back to you on that"
The annoying thing is it was purchased only 1 and a half years ago for
NZ $7500. A not insignificant amount, and I considered it an investment in
the making as HD disk technology was around the corner. The reality is this
display, and I presume many like it, are not fit for purpose as it applies
to HD DVD or Blue Ray technology. If they enable the down res. of the
component outputs then it is a significant problem.
Thanks for the comments.
Barry
On 6/14/06, Mark Aitken <maitken@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> For those interested, you might (more easily) try:
> <*http://tinyurl.com/p3raw>
> *
> John Golitsis wrote:
>
> >Hmmm.... I found info on your display here:
> >
> ><http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?
> >slg=ENG&cat=FLAT_TV_CA&sct=PLASMA_LARGE_32_42_SU&grp=TV_GR&session=20060
> >613110831_209.151.137.135&ctn=42FD9954/69C&mid=Link_UserManuals&hlt=Link
> >_UserManuals>
> >
> >but there is absolutely no mention of HDCP. If it doesn't have it,
> >then you will not be able to use a DVI connection from a Blu-ray or
> >HD DVD player at all. The news isn't all bad though...so far, the
> >studios have agreed not to use the Image Constraint Token (which
> >would force 960x540p on the component outputs) on HD discs, so you
> >will be able to get full resolution via an analog component video
> >connection. At least for the time being!
> >
> >On 13-Jun-06, at 4:40 AM, Barry Wilkins wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thanks for the reply John,
> >>That is quite interesting. Therefore, the inference is that Blue
> >>Ray and HD
> >>DVDs from any region will play on machines intended for at least
> >>Australia
> >>and perhaps NZ.
> >>
> >>I am not interested in seeing new Cinema releases on DVD before their
> >>allocated time but I see a perfectly valid and justified usage in the
> >>viewing of previously released films that are now re released on
> >>Blue Ray or
> >>HD-DVD. There is no issue with bypassing the Cinema chain under these
> >>conditions.
> >>Theoretically, the movie studios should release such material
> >>universally to
> >>all regions simultaneously, but that previously has not happened. The
> >>reality is region 4 for Australia and New Zealand (for standard
> >>DVD) has had
> >>to wait literally years after the region 1 release of previous cinema
> >>released movies.
> >>
> >>If the proposal suggested is factual for Blue Ray that would be a
> >>considerable relief from my view.
> >>One other thing - I have a Philips 42FD9954/69C plasma panel. This
> >>accepts
> >>DVI inputs but I am unsure if this will function properly with a
> >>Blue Ray
> >>HDMI output. I do not know for instance if the DVI input has HDCP
> >>and so may
> >>have problems with material (disks) in the future which may enable
> >>this
> >>function on the player/recorder.
> >> I understand that otherwise the DVI to HDMI function is straight
> >>forward
> >>for the video data, I just use the analog audio outputs for audio.
> >>Correct?
> >>
> >>Barry
> >>
> >>
> >>On 6/13/06, John Golitsis <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From what I understand, regional coding for DVD was deemed illegal
> >>>by the
> >>>Australian courts...under some sort of restraint of trade rules, I
> >>>believe.
> >>>Hence, the "void".
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Barry Wilkins" <barry.barrywilkins@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Not exactly a broadcasting topic but I am wondering if any of you
> >>>>can
> >>>>clarify where Australia and New Zealand fit in the new Blue Ray
> >>>>regional
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>coding requirements?
> >>>>We appear to have gone into a void in the spec. It would be neat
> >>>>if they
> >>>>just ignored the requirement here as has been suggested by an
> >>>>unofficial
> >>>>source. Perhaps Jeroen or Olivier could help please?
> >>>>
> >>>>
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