Thanks Ken, The Vetch Looper was a real learning experience. I glanced at it several times in MPG and BG trying to find some close relative with that gray color, but none of the pictures were even close. Of course, now when I look at the specific field marks, they're all there. Have you looked at the one labeled 1422. There is only one Palmetto tree within a mile of here! I couldn't find anything else that resembled my picture. The Wedgling mistake was a dumb one. It's a mirror image of the picture correctly identified above it. Wedgling has been the most common moth seen this month. I was trying too hard for that 21st species of the month to pass Richmond County's 20 species for the month of December. The games people play! I do have a couple of unsatisfactory pictures of a 21st and 22nd species that I'll investigate. Doug Allen Windmill Hill, 8 miles south of the NC border and 12 miles from the SC mountains On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:51 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >