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this excellent advice for Brenda, Janet! I am sure it will be very
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I only expressed my hares when they were incontinent or had injured legs
and one rabbit who couldn’t pee and also disabled, paralyzed. It’s not hard to
do,lots of videos online, yes, he needs to be expressed, jmo. How weird
you can’t see the vet? This would help him pee without peeing on himself. Also,
I sent you a video on expressing rabbits by Amy Spitzman (sp?)who is hrs
educator, did you see it?
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Micah and also Zacky peed on himself because of sludge but the vet bedding
worked I only had to use the veterinus while the area was healing. I have used
both vetrinus and A and D…I’ve used so many different things. The veterinus
also protects but I am not sure since you say Frodo is lying on the side with
the pee. Are you expressing? When I cleaned Zacky and he started healing
I sometimes had to continue giving him a little butt both, but also dried him
and and there were times I used burts bees powder (always talc free) and it
kept the area nice and dry even if he dribbled a bit, you might need to use the
butt paste if he is on the area constantly. I wish I could see him here, it’s
difficult for me me to say as the good vet bedding I told you about worked
wonders for Micah and Zacky too. Micah was on it all the time…Zacky only
when he dribbled…
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Simply put, my friend who rescues disabled rabbits said butt paste after
it’s healed to keep it dry….or the low zinc Desitin whichever you prefer…..why
not try the veterinus gel to see if it will protect, I also liked the spray….
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Here is a good link about disabled rabbit
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Here is the video again that shows how to express a rabbits bladder.
It’s not hard, but be very gentle and every time I’ve done it the pee just
comes out easily,
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So starting with a shaved/trimmed bunny with healthy skin, what is the
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1). Do you guys express the bladder on disabled rabbits/? A local
rabbit rescue said she’d show me how to do it properly this week. She’s worked
with thousands of rabbits over many years. My vet won’t show me, for one
thing people aren’t allowed in the building, and she prefers holding the rabbit
on his back and raising in the air and bringing down fast to startle them so
they pee. Frodo is dizzy often and I don’t think he’d like a free fall
carnival ride. Plus she never showed me how to do it, it sounds crazy.
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2)Vet bed or similar bedding. I think I’ve got that covered now. Using
the materials that a local rabbit rescue uses for disabled rabbits. Balin
tested it out by peeing all over it like a little snot, so I know it works.
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3) barrier cream every day as a preventative?
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Janet did you say the Vetrinus helped with that? Other choice is
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4) non-talc powder. When do you use that?
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5) clean with warm wet cotton balls only if he gets damp/wet from urine
(or poop). Or butt bath if really wet. Then the Vetrinus/ Calendula
gel or butt paste or Desitin if irritated skin.
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You guys are saints for putting up with my barrages of questions, which
are often repetitive as I try to grapple with all that’s going on.
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I so happy he us better now Brenda. Like my friend said, I would
keep putting the butt paste on since it’s healed, but would also keep his fur
trimmed and have good vet bedding. I love the vetrinus gel, but you’d have fo
try and see his but worked. My Micah was fine with it and it did help. I
also used burts bees baby powder which is talc free after he was dry,
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I am so happy he’s ok.
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So now that he’s healed up 98%, how do I prevent scald??! the
fur is really growing in now and it’s super velvety and feels so good to touch.
Can I put a&d or butt paste or desitin on top of the fur is it’s kept short
? Desitin and Burt paste get stuck in the longer fur. The vetrinus gel with
calendula works great to heal and doesnt matt up the fur but don’t know how
much moisture barrier it is.
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Glycerin, Hydrocotyle (Centella Asiatica) Extr., Calendula Officinalis Extr.,
Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Sodium Bicarbonate, Carbomer (*) , Sweet Marjoram
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Last night I found that he peed in his new diaper and part of
his fur was damp on his leg and tail. Not down to the skin though. The leg of
the diaper was wet. I got toilet paper and fluffed the fur and didn’t really
get any wetness on the toilet paper. Sooo i guess that’s good. This is
frustrating because i put him in his litter box to pee before bed and get up 4
hours later to do the same and again a few hours later when I get up. And he
didn’t get Subcutaneous fluids yesterday either.
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I just bought the original diapers I used, Huggies “instant
dry.” That has more layers and absorbable crystals. So hopefully that keeps him
drier.
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I need to go away Friday for about 10 hours and not sure I can
or should bring him with me. He might get too dizzy in the car 2.5 hours each
way. Plus they have an old dog but i could put him in his playpen up in a
bedroom with door shut. I’d probably have to bring his bonded mate too. Ugh
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If I leave him home I don’t know if I should diaper him or
not. I don’t know if he pees without a diaper will it get stuck in the loose
skin near his butt and cause scald. Maybe the better layer of towels and
bath mats and sheepskin I got will help and he does scoot around a
little, a foot or two in each direction. A rabbit rescue lady told me to get
the massage table 1” sheepskin mat that she used. I got it the other day.
So that and putting some kind of barrier cream on him might work.
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She also said the red is scalding on frodo ans it will take
about 4 or 5 days to work.
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Brenda, regarding the butt paste, my friend said it’s
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Ok I’ll get one but how do I put it on???
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sleeves? I’m going to target to try to find a different diaper and a
shaver but I don’t know if I can shave him, Ill have to beg the vet to have a
good tech do it.
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I’m worried that if I use a shirt or onesies
that it will get wet and cause more trouble. The only advice I got from my vet
was to use SSD ointment twice in one day, then switch to cornstarch the next
day, and so on, and to get it under control soon or PTS (because his quality of
life stinks right now —dizzy, ear infection, needs fit motility drugs, now
urine scald).
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It seems like his rear legs are getting a lot
stronger. His back left leg has been very weak or numb or both since his ear
infection and dizziness started Oct 22. If he can just get onto/stay on
his feet … he lays on the same side because his balance is off and then
he can’t get up he can only scoot.
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a rabbit........I just know it worked wonders on every other animal I have used
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important that they don't ingest it. Even SSD cream can cause problems if
ingested, and at the very least, if the animal is licking medicine off, it's
not going to do them any good. Someone on here mentioned using human baby
onesies....I have had really great success using those on some animals as well,
to keep them from licking or scratching at certain areas of their bodies.
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area of expertise when it comes to medical issues so I will defer to others who
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I think there are other
ointments better than this to soothe urine scale, just my opinion though,
why echincea? Maybe ok for infection…I’ve never had experience with
this and wonder why because it’s not something I’d use. The calendula is much
more healing, it’s something even my mom used and it’s amazing, this is
interesting. It talks about different causes of urine scald or burn
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scald? I think I have to heal it first and then switch to a barrier
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She states that these sores are due to urine scald from Frodo laying in the
same spot for a period of time. Her instructions are as follows: keep him clean
and dry and you can alternate with the SSD ointment one day and then corn
starch the next. She wanted to stress NOT combining both the SSD and corn
starch together as that will make a paste and make things worse. She did state
that if the sores do not improve with time we may need to discuss quality of
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end to groom, so there was no worry about ingesting. Evonne had good
results with it, too. I wouldn't want Frodo to be hurt by the Desitin or
for Balin to ingest it if he grooms Frodo. It worked well for Riley when
he would develop skin irritation, and I knew he couldn't ingest it. I
used it on and off for a few years. He lived to be almost 11.
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I have never used
Desitin on a rabbit, (I am far from an expert on this species and they seem to
be in a category all of their own for sure).....but it worked very well on my
possum. Roberta, did you see any ill effects at all from using it on your
bunny? ). Unsure if either of these products would be an issue just applying it
to the skin or if its more problematic if licked off. Of course, Desitin would
not be good if the animal licked it either. Both contain petroleum. Regardless,
he needs something that forms a true barrier and SSD cream alone will not
provide that. Whatever is used, just make sure Frodo isn't able to lick it.
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is a medicine that is rated safe for both humans and pets. The main issue is
that </span><strong style="font-family: Roboto,arial,sans-serif;
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be poisonous for dogs if they ingest it and reach the intestines</strong><span
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Brenda, I don’t want
to disagree with Laura, but as I feel different about ointments, as I
suggested before, and from my own personal experience with disabled
rabbits and hares, that that A and D ointment works better than Desitin, A and
D is much more protective and creamy and soft and more protective in my own
personal experience with both, also, please don’t use any with zinc, Desitin
also come with zinc with is toxic to bunnies. Also the A and D comes in
original strength, i would only get original. Look at the differences
online…Also, the A and D original has vitamin ANd D in it which is healing, but
both contain petroleum…also, my good friend who rescues and rehabs bunnies who
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Please look at the
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cecotropes. I don’t want to bathe him again today it seems to make the area
worse and some scabs fell off (I didn’t think they were scabs at the time) and
now those spots have pus. Maybe I can pour some peroxide on the area or watered
down betadine to make sure there’s no poop on the bare skin. There is some in
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We are all worn
out. If his appt next week doesn’t show that his ear infection is rapidly
clearing, she said before it was incueable but then the pus drastically
improved, I’m going to ask to PTS. He can only lay on one side and crawl
a bit, but now that side has sores. He can’t walk without a scarf holding him
up. He’s not eating much. He’s 9 ½
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sure to get the original formula. There is a newer type that is thinner;
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thru much trial and error when my disabled possum Lucy was alive. She arrived
here with 9 fractures, severe MBD and all 4 of her legs were permanently
splayed out to the sides so she never walked.....she'd army crawl to get around
just fine though. Keeping her rash free was an insanely difficult task,
especially since female possums have pouches and when she'd pee at night and
lay in it, it would irritate her undersides and her pouch something terrible. I
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One day a
lightbulb went off in my head and I thought huh, I wonder if diaper cream would
help. I bought some Desitin and OMG, not only did it tamp down the irritation,
it protected her like nothing else from it developing out of control again. She
could not really reach to groom herself so I didn't have to worry about her
licking at it. In addition to that, I used Micro Tek shampoo on her.....that
stuff is amazing, it helps kill bacteria and fungus/yeast, which is almost
always a component you are dealing with in cases like your little boy. You can
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bacterial and yeast infections due to those areas of their bodies being
constantly moist. I would advise that you wash that area with that shampoo I
mentioned, it has to sit for a few minutes on him. Make sure to rinse him well
in tepid water....if the water is too warm it will sting that irritated skin
even more. Now here comes the challenging part with a bunny.....you must dry
that area completely, using a low heat because again, heat will only cause more
irritation. I know that's time consuming and no easy task, especially with a
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Once you are
done, slather him in Desiten. It's messy I know, but it will form a protective
barrier on his skin. I am not 100% sure if it's advisable to use both creams, I
personally would put on a layer of the SSD cream and then add the Desiten....I
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pics of the sores and him in his diaper. With and without flash. Not a great
closeup. Its a little better than it was right after the butt bath. It’s his
upper thigh/butt where he lays all the time. He only lays on one side. I Hope
the diaper keeps him dry tonight because I put the silver sulfa…..
antibiotic cream on his sores and it needs to stay on and not rubbed off and
not peed on. He’s still a wee bit damp from his butt bath but I have to go to
bed. I patted with paper towels, towels, sham wows, more paper towels, hair
dryer on low for like 20 minutes. OMG it’s like it’s against the laws of nature
for the fur to be completely dry.
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bare skin rubbing on blankets and carpet and getting wet with pee. I thought
fur was falling out because I had to keep wiping/brushing out some mushy poops.
But then it kept falling out I was using cornstarch to try and keep him
dry/dry him up when he peed, but it didn’t work. I put him on several layers of
bedding to keep him dry, it wasnt working a few days ago but I think I got it
figured out now so he can stay dry. But then he pees onto himself sometimes so
he gets wet again and the cornstarch didn’t prevent the sores. Maybe they are
bed sores or rug burn and urine scald?
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ear infections can be cured, then maybe he can get better. He’s struggling with
the dizziness and lack of mobility. He became mobile again a couple weeks ago,
but has backslid. the dizziness and neurological issues cause one of his
back legs to be weak and for him to walk in circles until he falls over and
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