I left a message for the vet about Frodo and desitin or what to do. Here is the
reply
I checked him just now and I don’t see any pus anymore. So maybe what she
advises will work.
-Brenda
“
Dr. Lucas took a look at the photos you had sent. She states that these sores
are due to urine scald from Frodo laying in the same spot for a period of time.
Her instructions are as follows: keep him clean and dry and you can alternate
with the SSD ointment one day and then corn starch the next. She wanted to
stress NOT combining both the SSD and corn starch together as that will make a
paste and make things worse. She did state that if the sores do not improve
with time we may need to discuss quality of life”
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Riley could not reach his hind end to groom, so there was no worry about
ingesting. Evonne had good results with it, too. I wouldn't want Frodo to
be hurt by the Desitin or for Balin to ingest it if he grooms Frodo. It
worked well for Riley when he would develop skin irritation, and I knew he
couldn't ingest it. I used it on and off for a few years. He lived to be
almost 11. Please don't follow my recommendation.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 1:09 PM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have never used Desitin on a rabbit, (I am far from an expert on this
species and they seem to be in a category all of their own for sure).....but
it worked very well on my possum. Roberta, did you see any ill effects at
all from using it on your bunny? ). Unsure if either of these products would
be an issue just applying it to the skin or if its more problematic if
licked off. Of course, Desitin would not be good if the animal licked it
either. Both contain petroleum. Regardless, he needs something that forms a
true barrier and SSD cream alone will not provide that. Whatever is used,
just make sure Frodo isn't able to lick it.
Both Desitin and A&D contain some questionable ingredients, but I think the
main concern is if its ingested.
A&D ointment is a medicine that is rated safe for both humans and pets. The
main issue is that the ointment can be poisonous for dogs if they ingest it
and reach the intestines. ... You should know that A&D ointment has zinc
oxide as one of the healing agents for rashes and wounds.
***If concerned about zinc, make sure you buy regular A&D, not A+D Zinc
Oxide Cream.
Desitin can also be toxic to dogs; however, in most cases, the dog would
have to either eat a large amount or eat the ointment on a regular basis to
have a toxic reaction. Having said that, it’s still possible a dog could
experience some digestive tract issues from eating Desitin.
Blessings,
Laura Mowrey
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From: naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Janet G
<wildharerescue@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:35 AM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Brenda, I don’t want to disagree with Laura, but as I feel different about
ointments, as I suggested before, and from my own personal experience with
disabled rabbits and hares, that that A and D ointment works better than
Desitin, A and D is much more protective and creamy and soft and more
protective in my own personal experience with both, also, please don’t use
any with zinc, Desitin also come with zinc with is toxic to bunnies. Also
the A and D comes in original strength, i would only get original. Look at
the differences online…Also, the A and D original has vitamin ANd D in it
which is healing, but both contain petroleum…also, my good friend who
rescues and rehabs bunnies who are disabled uses a and d Original.
Please look at the online forum for disabled rabbits about the A and D
original ointment here, all have disabled bunnies,
http://www.disabledrabbits.com/urine-scald.html
Love, Janet
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 8:01 AM Brenda Bennett <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>--
wrote:
I’ll try to get some desitin today. He got out of his diaper last night and
rolled in cecotropes. I don’t want to bathe him again today it seems to
make the area worse and some scabs fell off (I didn’t think they were scabs
at the time) and now those spots have pus. Maybe I can pour some peroxide
on the area or watered down betadine to make sure there’s no poop on the
bare skin. There is some in the fur I’ll try to comb it out
We are all worn out. If his appt next week doesn’t show that his ear
infection is rapidly clearing, she said before it was incueable but then
the pus drastically improved, I’m going to ask to PTS. He can only lay on
one side and crawl a bit, but now that side has sores. He can’t walk
without a scarf holding him up. He’s not eating much. He’s 9 ½
-Brenda
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On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Roberta Kessler <rlkessler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I completely agree with you about the Desitin, Laura. If you decide to try
the Desitin, Brenda....be sure to get the original formula. There is a
newer type that is thinner; it doesn't stay on as well.. don't buy that
one. It worked well on my children, and worked wonderfully on Riley, and
stays on even when wet. It forms a very good, moisture resistant barrier.
Love,
Roberta
On 12/02/2021 9:11 AM Laura Mowrey <sshalimar16@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Brenda, oh that poor little guy. 🙁 I want to pass on a little trick I
learned thru much trial and error when my disabled possum Lucy was alive.
She arrived here with 9 fractures, severe MBD and all 4 of her legs were
permanently splayed out to the sides so she never walked.....she'd army
crawl to get around just fine though. Keeping her rash free was an
insanely difficult task, especially since female possums have pouches and
when she'd pee at night and lay in it, it would irritate her undersides
and her pouch something terrible. I tired SO many different things,
including the cream you are using on your little guy to no avail.
One day a lightbulb went off in my head and I thought huh, I wonder if
diaper cream would help. I bought some Desitin and OMG, not only did it
tamp down the irritation, it protected her like nothing else from it
developing out of control again. She could not really reach to groom
herself so I didn't have to worry about her licking at it. In addition to
that, I used Micro Tek shampoo on her.....that stuff is amazing, it helps
kill bacteria and fungus/yeast, which is almost always a component you are
dealing with in cases like your little boy. You can find it online and
many Feed stores also carry it.
You are probably already aware that animals like your boy and my Lucy are
very prone to bacterial and yeast infections due to those areas of their
bodies being constantly moist. I would advise that you wash that area with
that shampoo I mentioned, it has to sit for a few minutes on him. Make
sure to rinse him well in tepid water....if the water is too warm it will
sting that irritated skin even more. Now here comes the challenging part
with a bunny.....you must dry that area completely, using a low heat
because again, heat will only cause more irritation. I know that's time
consuming and no easy task, especially with a bunny but do the best you
can.
Once you are done, slather him in Desiten. It's messy I know, but it will
form a protective barrier on his skin. I am not 100% sure if it's
advisable to use both creams, I personally would put on a layer of the SSD
cream and then add the Desiten....I did that with Lucy and it didn't cause
any adverse skin reactions.
It sounds like this is going to be an on-going issue with your boy so if
this helps keep him comfortable, that's important. I cannot imagine how
much that must hurt if he gets urine on that area. 🙁
If he is not already on a good probiotic for bunnies, get that too......
Blessings,
Laura Mowrey
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From: naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<naturalrabbit-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Brenda Bennett
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 10:24 PM
To: naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <naturalrabbit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [naturalrabbit] Re: Frodo
Here’s pics of the sores and him in his diaper. With and without flash.
Not a great closeup. Its a little better than it was right after the butt
bath. It’s his upper thigh/butt where he lays all the time. He only lays
on one side. I Hope the diaper keeps him dry tonight because I put the
silver sulfa….. antibiotic cream on his sores and it needs to stay on and
not rubbed off and not peed on. He’s still a wee bit damp from his butt
bath but I have to go to bed. I patted with paper towels, towels, sham
wows, more paper towels, hair dryer on low for like 20 minutes. OMG it’s
like it’s against the laws of nature for the fur to be completely dry.
I can’t believe he got these scabs, it must be from having bare skin
rubbing on blankets and carpet and getting wet with pee. I thought fur was
falling out because I had to keep wiping/brushing out some mushy poops.
But then it kept falling out I was using cornstarch to try and keep him
dry/dry him up when he peed, but it didn’t work. I put him on several
layers of bedding to keep him dry, it wasnt working a few days ago but I
think I got it figured out now so he can stay dry. But then he pees onto
himself sometimes so he gets wet again and the cornstarch didn’t prevent
the sores. Maybe they are bed sores or rug burn and urine scald?
Don’t tell him I took a pic of him in his diaper, he finds it very
undignified.
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Thanks for advice and support and prayers. We’re still hoping the ear
infections can be cured, then maybe he can get better. He’s struggling
with the dizziness and lack of mobility. He became mobile again a couple
weeks ago, but has backslid. the dizziness and neurological issues cause
one of his back legs to be weak and for him to walk in circles until he
falls over and can’t get back up.
— Brenda
Janet
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