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his hind end to groom, so there was no worry about ingesting. Evonne had
good results with it, too. I wouldn't want Frodo to be hurt by the
Desitin or for Balin to ingest it if he grooms Frodo. It worked well for
Riley when he would develop skin irritation, and I knew he couldn't ingest
it. I used it on and off for a few years. He lived to be almost
11. Please don't follow my recommendation.</span>
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I have never used Desitin on a rabbit, (I am far from an expert on this
species and they seem to be in a category all of their own for sure).....but it
worked very well on my possum. Roberta, did you see any ill effects at all from
using it on your bunny? ). Unsure if either of these products would be an issue
just applying it to the skin or if its more problematic if licked off. Of
course, Desitin would not be good if the animal licked it either. Both contain
petroleum. Regardless, he needs something that forms a true barrier and SSD
cream alone will not provide that. Whatever is used, just make sure Frodo isn't
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Brenda, I don’t want to disagree with Laura, but as I feel different
about ointments, as I suggested before, and from my own personal
experience with disabled rabbits and hares, that that A and D ointment works
better than Desitin, A and D is much more protective and creamy and soft and
more protective in my own personal experience with both, also, please don’t use
any with zinc, Desitin also come with zinc with is toxic to bunnies. Also the A
and D comes in original strength, i would only get original. Look at the
differences online…Also, the A and D original has vitamin ANd D in it which is
healing, but both contain petroleum…also, my good friend who rescues and rehabs
bunnies who are disabled uses a and d Original.
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Please look at the online forum for disabled rabbits about the A and D
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I’ll try to get some desitin today. He got out of his diaper last night
and rolled in cecotropes. I don’t want to bathe him again today it seems to
make the area worse and some scabs fell off (I didn’t think they were scabs at
the time) and now those spots have pus. Maybe I can pour some peroxide on the
area or watered down betadine to make sure there’s no poop on the bare skin.
There is some in the fur I’ll try to comb it out
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We are all worn out. If his appt next week doesn’t show that his ear
infection is rapidly clearing, she said before it was incueable but then the
pus drastically improved, I’m going to ask to PTS. He can only lay on one
side and crawl a bit, but now that side has sores. He can’t walk without a
scarf holding him up. He’s not eating much. He’s 9 ½
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agree with you about the Desitin, Laura. If you decide to try the
Desitin, Brenda....be sure to get the original formula. There is a newer
type that is thinner; it doesn't stay on as well.. don't buy that one. It
worked well on my children, and worked wonderfully on Riley, and stays on even
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learned thru much trial and error when my disabled possum Lucy was alive. She
arrived here with 9 fractures, severe MBD and all 4 of her legs were
permanently splayed out to the sides so she never walked.....she'd army crawl
to get around just fine though. Keeping her rash free was an insanely difficult
task, especially since female possums have pouches and when she'd pee at night
and lay in it, it would irritate her undersides and her pouch something
terrible. I tired SO many different things, including the cream you are using
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One day a lightbulb went off in my head and I thought huh, I
wonder if diaper cream would help. I bought some Desitin and OMG, not only did
it tamp down the irritation, it protected her like nothing else from it
developing out of control again. She could not really reach to groom herself so
I didn't have to worry about her licking at it. In addition to that, I used
Micro Tek shampoo on her.....that stuff is amazing, it helps kill bacteria and
fungus/yeast, which is almost always a component you are dealing with in cases
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You are probably already aware that animals like your boy and my
Lucy are very prone to bacterial and yeast infections due to those areas of
their bodies being constantly moist. I would advise that you wash that area
with that shampoo I mentioned, it has to sit for a few minutes on him. Make
sure to rinse him well in tepid water....if the water is too warm it will sting
that irritated skin even more. Now here comes the challenging part with a
bunny.....you must dry that area completely, using a low heat because again,
heat will only cause more irritation. I know that's time consuming and no easy
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Once you are done, slather him in Desiten. It's messy I know, but
it will form a protective barrier on his skin. I am not 100% sure if it's
advisable to use both creams, I personally would put on a layer of the SSD
cream and then add the Desiten....I did that with Lucy and it didn't cause any
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It sounds like this is going to be an on-going issue with your boy
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Here’s pics of the sores and him in his diaper. With and without
flash. Not a great closeup. Its a little better than it was right after the
butt bath. It’s his upper thigh/butt where he lays all the time. He only lays
on one side. I Hope the diaper keeps him dry tonight because I put the
silver sulfa….. antibiotic cream on his sores and it needs to stay on and not
rubbed off and not peed on. He’s still a wee bit damp from his butt bath but I
have to go to bed. I patted with paper towels, towels, sham wows, more paper
towels, hair dryer on low for like 20 minutes. OMG it’s like it’s against the
laws of nature for the fur to be completely dry.
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<br> I can’t believe he got these scabs, it must be from
having bare skin rubbing on blankets and carpet and getting wet with pee. I
thought fur was falling out because I had to keep wiping/brushing out some
mushy poops. But then it kept falling out I was using cornstarch to try
and keep him dry/dry him up when he peed, but it didn’t work. I put him on
several layers of bedding to keep him dry, it wasnt working a few days ago but
I think I got it figured out now so he can stay dry. But then he pees onto
himself sometimes so he gets wet again and the cornstarch didn’t prevent the
sores. Maybe they are bed sores or rug burn and urine scald?
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<br>Don’t tell him I took a pic of him in his diaper, he finds
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<br>Thanks for advice and support and prayers. We’re still
hoping the ear infections can be cured, then maybe he can get better. He’s
struggling with the dizziness and lack of mobility. He became mobile again a
couple weeks ago, but has backslid. the dizziness and neurological issues
cause one of his back legs to be weak and for him to walk in circles until he
falls over and can’t get back up.
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