I've found if I insert a caption and it places it below the canvas, then I CAN drag that caption box into the canvas ... I don't have to cut and paste that one. It's all weird and I'm liking 2007 less and less LOL And yes, like I said, once stuff has been inside the canvas and you've dragged it out, even if you ungroup it, you can then select multiple items again by using the select tool OR by using the control key ... it seems once they've been in the canvas, they continue to act like "canvassed" items even after you move them out and delete the canvas. Makes no sense to me at all LOL ******************************* Linda F. Johnson Linda's Computer Stop http://personal-computer-tutor.com -----Original Message----- From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Lightfoot Here are a few other fine points I've discovered. You cannot drag and drop into the canvas but rather must cut and paste. Strangely, as Linda mentioned, you can drag and drop the grouped objects out of the canvas. Don't ask me why the difference. I guess that's the only way the two different graphic engines will accept them. You cannot add a caption to a photo while it is in the canvas. I guess captions are really a text box and so the new graphic engine doesn't know anything about them. However, you can cut and paste a previously created caption (of a text-wrapped object only) into the canvas and consequently group it with an image. And now, here is the weirdest thing of all. After you group your objects in the canvas, you can drag them out of the canvas as Linda mentioned and they retain that property. However, if you then un-group them, I find that suddenly you can now use the select tool to choose multiple objects of that previous group and re-group them, something that you couldn't do before without having them on the canvas. Now that's really weird! ************************************************************* You are receiving this mail because you subscribed to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or MicrosoftOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To send mail to the group, simply address it to mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To Unsubscribe from this group, visit the group's homepage and use the dropdown menu at the top. This will allow you to unsubscribe your email address or change your email settings to digest or vacation (no mail). //www.freelists.org/webpage/mso To be able to share files with the group, you must join our Yahoo sister group. This group will not allow for posting of emails, but will allow you to join and share problem files, templates, etc.: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MicrosoftOffice . This group is for FILE SHARING ONLY. If you are using Outlook and you see a lot of unnecessary code in your email messages, read these instructions that explain why and how to fix it: http://personal-computer-tutor.com/abc3/v28/greg28.htm *************************************************************