[macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:21:11 -0500
Hi, here is a podcast on the Mac mail client that I think might be helpful.
See link below, might have to copy and paste in address bar.
http://mark.candleshoreblog.com/2010/08/20/ep59-how-to-optimize-the-macintos
h-mail-application-for-use-with-voiceover/
Sign,
Bubba
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:12 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
With quick nav off, right and left arrows should read letter by letter in
Pages and mail as well.
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Ray Campbell wrote:
> How do I turn quick nav off?
>
>
> Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician The Chicago
> Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired 1850 W.
> Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608
> 312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
> ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.chicagolighthouse.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
>
> Turn quick nav off and then option-down arrow will get to the last email
received in mail.
>
> In a google search, each result is a heading.
>
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Ray Campbell wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> First of all, I am the person Natalie asked about Apple Mail and Snow
Leopard for last week, the thing about using option-down arrow. I thank her
for doing that.
>>
>> Let me tell you all what I'm doing, to preface several questions I have.
We've been referred a client by our state's rehabilitation agency who wants
training using VoiceOver on a Mac Book Pro running Snow Leopard. Basically,
he got referred to us because one of the top tech people for our agency told
him he hates the Mac and therefore, wouldn't train him on it.
>>
>> Anyway, I've been boning up on my Mac and VoiceOver knowledge so I can
train this person. In our lab, we have an iMac.
>>
>> Here are several things I've run into and questions.
>>
>> We tried going into the Mail program and the client wanted to get to his
most recent message. As Natalie and others of you suggested, I pressed
option-down arrow and held it for a few seconds. I was focused on the Inbox
table. I tried option-down arrow both interacting and not interacting with
the table. It took me to some copy thing. Do I need to interact with the
inbox table, then tab to messages before using option-down arrow?
>>
>> My second question involves the Pages program. I was showing my client
how to type documents in Pages. Here's where we ran into a problem, which
also happened to us when replying to an e-mail message. We could type stuff
in OK, but I can't figure out how to move through in Pages and mail replies
to find and make corrections. If I press left or right arrow by themselves,
VoiceOver speaks the previous or next word. The same thing happens when I
press VO-left arrow or VO-right arrow. The only way I can move one
character at a time is using vo-shift-left arrow and vo-shift-right arrow
which are for reading previous and next character, respectively. However,
then, when I get to where we want to make the correction and I press delete,
something other than what I'm trying to correct is deleted. I did interact
with the edit text in Pages. What am I doing wrong? I thought this was
like Word or Notepad in that when I used the arrow keys, I'd move one
character at a time when interacting with text.
>>
>> Next, we typed in a google search but it wasn't clear to me how to find
and navigate through the search results. How do I do this?
>>
>> Finally, are there any good "teach the teacher" type materials on how to
do stuff with VoiceOver on-line that I could access? I've been reading the
Getting Started guide and also listening to podcasts on Blind Cool Tech.
Are there any other materials available that folks would recommend,
especially those of you who have taught people how to do stuff with
VoiceOver? Natalie's a big help (smile), but I'm looking for other sources,
too. I feel very inadequate when trying to teach someone how to do
VoiceOver stuff, since I don't feel I know as much as I should.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician The Chicago
>> Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired 1850 W.
>> Roosevelt Road Chicago, IL 60608
>> 312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
>> ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.chicagolighthouse.org
>>
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