[macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
- From: Ray Campbell <ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:11:17 +0000
Hi Keith and Ash:
Turning off Quick Nav was a big help. Keith, thanks for the link to the guide.
Unfortunately, my agency has the URL www.icanworkthisthing.com blocked, so I
will have to see if they'll open it up for me.
Thank you everyone for your time and for being patient with all of my questions.
Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
1850 W. Roosevelt Road
Chicago, IL 60608
312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.chicagolighthouse.org
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:02 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
Hi Ray,
As Ash said, holding down the left and right arrow keys together will turn it
off, but, it is a toggle, so it will turn it on as well.
Take a look at this guide, I think it will be a help to you.
http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/Using_Mac_Applications_with_Voiceover_the_Snow_Leopard_Edition.shtml
Keith Reedy
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On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Ray Campbell wrote:
> How do I turn quick nav off?
>
>
> Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
> The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
> 1850 W. Roosevelt Road
> Chicago, IL 60608
> 312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
> ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.chicagolighthouse.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions
>
> Turn quick nav off and then option-down arrow will get to the last email
> received in mail.
>
> In a google search, each result is a heading.
>
> On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Ray Campbell wrote:
>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> First of all, I am the person Natalie asked about Apple Mail and Snow
>> Leopard for last week, the thing about using option-down arrow. I thank her
>> for doing that.
>>
>> Let me tell you all what I'm doing, to preface several questions I have.
>> We've been referred a client by our state's rehabilitation agency who wants
>> training using VoiceOver on a Mac Book Pro running Snow Leopard. Basically,
>> he got referred to us because one of the top tech people for our agency told
>> him he hates the Mac and therefore, wouldn't train him on it.
>>
>> Anyway, I've been boning up on my Mac and VoiceOver knowledge so I can train
>> this person. In our lab, we have an iMac.
>>
>> Here are several things I've run into and questions.
>>
>> We tried going into the Mail program and the client wanted to get to his
>> most recent message. As Natalie and others of you suggested, I pressed
>> option-down arrow and held it for a few seconds. I was focused on the Inbox
>> table. I tried option-down arrow both interacting and not interacting with
>> the table. It took me to some copy thing. Do I need to interact with the
>> inbox table, then tab to messages before using option-down arrow?
>>
>> My second question involves the Pages program. I was showing my client how
>> to type documents in Pages. Here's where we ran into a problem, which also
>> happened to us when replying to an e-mail message. We could type stuff in
>> OK, but I can't figure out how to move through in Pages and mail replies to
>> find and make corrections. If I press left or right arrow by themselves,
>> VoiceOver speaks the previous or next word. The same thing happens when I
>> press VO-left arrow or VO-right arrow. The only way I can move one
>> character at a time is using vo-shift-left arrow and vo-shift-right arrow
>> which are for reading previous and next character, respectively. However,
>> then, when I get to where we want to make the correction and I press delete,
>> something other than what I'm trying to correct is deleted. I did interact
>> with the edit text in Pages. What am I doing wrong? I thought this was
>> like Word or Notepad in that when I used the arrow keys, I'd move one
>> character at a time when interacting with text.
>>
>> Next, we typed in a google search but it wasn't clear to me how to find and
>> navigate through the search results. How do I do this?
>>
>> Finally, are there any good "teach the teacher" type materials on how to do
>> stuff with VoiceOver on-line that I could access? I've been reading the
>> Getting Started guide and also listening to podcasts on Blind Cool Tech.
>> Are there any other materials available that folks would recommend,
>> especially those of you who have taught people how to do stuff with
>> VoiceOver? Natalie's a big help (smile), but I'm looking for other sources,
>> too. I feel very inadequate when trying to teach someone how to do
>> VoiceOver stuff, since I don't feel I know as much as I should.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
>> The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
>> 1850 W. Roosevelt Road
>> Chicago, IL 60608
>> 312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
>> ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.chicagolighthouse.org
>>
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> Hope you're having a nice day!
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