[macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions

  • From: Ray Campbell <ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:40:36 +0000

How do I turn quick nav off?


Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
1850 W. Roosevelt Road
Chicago, IL  60608
312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.chicagolighthouse.org



-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:10 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Several VoiceOver and Mac Questions

Turn quick nav off and then option-down arrow will  get to the last email 
received in mail.

In a google search, each result is a heading.

On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Ray Campbell wrote:

> Hello All:
> 
> First of all, I am the person Natalie asked about Apple Mail and Snow Leopard 
> for last week, the thing about using option-down arrow.  I thank her for 
> doing that.
> 
> Let me tell you all what I'm doing, to preface several questions I have.  
> We've been referred a client by our state's rehabilitation agency who wants 
> training using VoiceOver on a Mac Book Pro running Snow Leopard.  Basically, 
> he got referred to us because one of the top tech people for our agency told 
> him he hates the Mac and therefore, wouldn't train him on it.
> 
> Anyway, I've been boning up on my Mac and VoiceOver knowledge so I can train 
> this person.  In our lab, we have an iMac.
> 
> Here are several things I've run into and questions.
> 
> We tried going into the Mail program and the client wanted to get to his most 
> recent message.  As Natalie and others of you suggested, I pressed 
> option-down arrow and held it for a few seconds.  I was focused on the Inbox 
> table.  I tried option-down arrow both interacting and not interacting with 
> the table.  It took me to some copy thing.  Do I need to interact with the 
> inbox table, then tab to messages before using option-down arrow?
> 
> My second question involves the Pages program.  I was showing my client how 
> to type documents in Pages.  Here's where we ran into a problem, which also 
> happened to us when replying to an e-mail message.  We could type stuff in 
> OK, but I can't figure out how to move through in Pages and mail replies to 
> find and make corrections.  If I press left or right arrow by themselves, 
> VoiceOver speaks the previous or next word.  The same thing happens when I 
> press VO-left arrow or VO-right arrow.  The only way I can move one character 
> at a time is using vo-shift-left arrow and vo-shift-right arrow which are for 
> reading previous and next character, respectively.  However, then, when I get 
> to where we want to make the correction and I press delete, something other 
> than what I'm trying to correct is deleted.  I did interact with the edit 
> text in Pages.  What am I doing wrong?  I thought this was like Word or 
> Notepad in that when I used the arrow keys, I'd move one character at a time 
> when interacting with text.
> 
> Next, we typed in a google search but it wasn't clear to me how to find and 
> navigate through the search results.  How do I do this?
> 
> Finally, are there any good "teach the teacher" type materials on how to do 
> stuff with VoiceOver on-line that I could access?  I've been reading the 
> Getting Started guide and also listening to podcasts on Blind Cool Tech.  Are 
> there any other materials available that folks would recommend, especially 
> those of you who have taught people how to do stuff with VoiceOver?  
> Natalie's a big help (smile), but I'm looking for other sources, too.  I feel 
> very inadequate when trying to teach someone how to do VoiceOver stuff, since 
> I don't feel I know as much as I should.
> 
> 
> 
> Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
> The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
> 1850 W. Roosevelt Road
> Chicago, IL  60608
> 312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
> ray.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.chicagolighthouse.org
> 
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Marcy
Hope you're having a nice day!

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