[macvoiceover] Re: Questions after playing with readiris demo
- From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:34:00 -0600
On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Tim Grady wrote:
You didn't missunderstand anything, you just think that
accessibility means full access, which is something you'll never see
in your lifetime, so I guess what I'm saying though I shouldn't have
to is that if something doesn't give you full access then you should
find a way to cope unless you want to limit yourself. It's OK to
ask for as much access as you can, but if you don't get what you
want then find a way to do what you need.
Here again is the windows vs mac mindset.
If you're going to completely switch to the mac, you *really* need to
get rid of the windows mindset.
OSX is a *fully* accessible os, and there is no need to wish for full
access, it already exists with most applications.
And, since apple themselves makes the tools available for developing
applications for the mac, they do a great deal to alert developers to
the accessibility features of the applications.
Unlike windows, all osx developers at least are aware there is a
disability api for osx, even if they don't know exactly what it is.
Thus, emailing a developer, and asking to have a button labeled with
an accessible tag, or asking them to put accessible text on other
items usually meets with a positive response, because they know what's
going on, and why.
This kind of cooperation is not possible on windows, because in most
cases, developers aren't even aware of disabled users, and even if
they are, generally, they don't know what needs done to make their
apps accessible.
Apple has entire website sections devoted strictly to accessiblity,
and how to make programs work with voiceover and their other access
functions.
Their developer tools include access into each product produced, and
as long as developers follow simple guidelines laid out by apple, then
an application is accessible right out of the box, and often times,
the developer doesn't know disabled users are using their programs,
because they did such a good job, they never even get complaints about
it not working.
This is the biggest difference between osx and windows.
Things *do* work with full access on osx, and the whole we can't
expect full access attitude is really getting old.
Osx *does* offer full access, and will continue to do so as long as
folks keep developers aware of the issues.
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