If the old dvd will still allow you to erase and install despite the fact that
you are now running a newer version, then yes, that will work. As for Yosemite,
honestly I would take this one step at a time; there is no need to do
everything all at once.
I have to go do some other things right now. if you want to try this with the
dvd you have, you can look up the steps online or somebody here will explain
them to you. I'll check this thread again when i am back at my computer to make
sure you have gotten whatever help you want.
Cheryl
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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Sep 3, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Ignasi Cambra <ic4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, Apple still sells the DVD, but with the original DVD that came with the
computer you really are able to boot, erase the drive and install the
system. The only thing is that you will have to update to 10.6.8 before
installing Yosemite, that shouldn't be a problem.
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On Sep 3, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ok, so what would i do then? I am not even sure they even sell the snow
leppard dvds any more so if they don't then what?
On 9/3/2015 12:50 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Actually, I think this might be possible. I don't think you can use that
dvd to reinstall while 10.6.8 is on it because your current system is now
newer than the dvd if the dvd is for an earlier version of Snow leopard.
What I am not sure about is whether you could still use that dvd to go
into Disk utility and erase the hard drive, in which case your need of a
password would be over as you would be doing a brand new install. But you
would find that out if you tried it and if it can't be done, you haven't
lost anything. While you would have to wait a few days, it would be much
easier, if you can afford it, to get the Snow Leopard dvd from Apple,
which I believe would be 10.6.8, and then without question you should be
able to use it to erase your hd and then turn around and run the install.
I know that situations are different for different people but I
respectfully disagree about the ram. I think that if you start using your
computer very much there may be times when you will regret running
Yosemite without more ram. Of course, if your ram can be increased, you
would have the option of having that done before or after upgrading to
Yosemite. I admit that I could be wrong about this or at least you may not
find this to be a problem but i'm just giving you my honest opinion.
I would strongly advise you not to try the Single User Mode solution
unless it becomes the only one left to you (actually, I think I have also
heard it called safe mode unless there are two separate modes on the mac
with these names). For one thing, it is possible to do harm with a mistake
or possible not to be sure you are in Single user Mode since you will get
no feedback from voiceover. For another, it still doesn't really solve the
problem of somebody else's data being on your computer though it is true
that you could then create your own administrative account and delete the
unwanted ones. At any rate, people usually do not pursue that solution if
they have other alternatives.
--
Cheryl
May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
why notgive me the instructions and let me try it. is there a way i could
use the snow leppard dvd to totally erase the drive and then reinstall
snow leppard and then theupdate to snow leppard and then do the install
of yosemity?
On 9/3/2015 11:53 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
Running Yosemite with only 2 GB of RAM is not ideal, but is still within
apples minimum requirements. Voiceover really doesn't use much memory at
all, so as long as you try not to run many applications at the same time
your system should still run quite smoothly.
The thing is that your situation is actually quite tricky: From OS X
10.6.8 you should be able to download Yosemite from the Mac App Store,
but you won’t be able to install it right away because it looks like
your user account doesn’t have administrator privileges. Even to do a
clean install you will need administrator privileges on that computer in
oder to create a bootable drive that you can use to install Yosemite
from, so there are two options that I can think of:
1. Find someone who knows how to create a bootable USB drive from the
Yosemite installer and who can do it from a computer that’s not yours,
then boot from that drive, erase your hard drive containing the Snow
Leopard installation and install Yosemite.
2. You can always boot into your Mac in Safe Mode and modify the
password for the administrator account on your computer, which is really
quite simple if you are comfortable writing commands in a terminal
window with no voice feedback. This should be possible if whoever gave
you that computer hasn’t activated firmware password protection, which
is very likely. If you manage to change the administrator password you
will be able to install whatever you want and use the computer however
you like. I could try to give you instructions on how to do that, but if
you aren’t familiar with the Unix console environment maybe it’s not the
best idea.
Hope this helps...
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On Sep 3, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Singing Sparrow <
<mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ok, this is my current set up.
the macbook is a mid 2010 white polly carbon intel core 2 duo 2.4 ghz
processor 2 gigs of ddr3 ram 250 gig hardrive current osx version is
10.6.8 this was updated from the osx version that was installed on the
macbook which was 10.6.3 how could i do a clean install of yosemity
when i would need to know what the user name and password would be to
even do an install of yosemity? according to what i read on a few web
sites about it?
On 9/3/2015 3:18 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
Which version of Snow Leopard do you have installed? If you are on
10.6.8 you would be able to do a clean install of Yosemite if your
computer is able to run it. In that case you would not need the snow
leopard DVD. If you are on a version earlier than 10.6.8 then your
best choice would be to just boot from the DVD, use disk utility to
erase your drive, and follow the instructions to reinstall the system.
That would allow you to set your own password, which would make it
possible for you to update your computer to 10.6.8, and then upgrade
to Yosemite.
Obviously before doing any of this you should copy any important
information or files in that computer to an external drive. Otherwise
you will just lose everything.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Singing Sparrow <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If i look and i have the dvd what would be the steps to cleanly do an
install removing everything and making sure that nothing is left
behind?
On 9/3/2015 2:50 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
All the solutions I know of, given that you don't have the install
cds or dvd that came with it, involve booting into safe mood, where
you have to type several lines without any feedback as voiceover
doesn't work. Even if you either erase the current users and reset
it to run the setup assistant again, or just reset the password for
a user, then you have to also fix or delete and restart building the
keychain. I wouldn't recommend this to anybody unless he/she had
excellent typing skills that don't need audible feedback and had
experience with the Mac, especially using terminal. If I was right
there to guide step-by-step or could do it myself, I might do this
and actually have done it on a Mac on one occasion. But honestly,
even if doing this works, you will not have securely erased this
other person's information. What really needs to happen is for you
to completely erase and reinstall your system. The only way I know
of for you to do this would be to purchase the snow leopard dvd from
the Apple Store (not available in the app store; you need to buy a
physical product). You would bring up the dvd for install which can
be explained in more detail once you are doing it but go into disk
utility on the dvd and totally erase your drive first. Then you
would do a clean install via the dvd and would set up your own user
information. Long-term, I think this would be the best solution
though I can understand that you would like a quick fix so you can
go ahead and install Adobe flash player and get on with life, but I
honestly think this approach would benefit you most in the long run.
As for installing Yosemite, first you would need to know if you meet
all the requirements for running Yosemite and have enough memory to
make it a positive experience; I would tend to recommend more memory
than the minimum requirement especially with running voiceover. But
again, trying to install it over your Snow Leopard install is going
to require the password for the administrator. Starting over again
from scratch may seem like a daunting undertaking, but I think that
long-term it would prove to be a better choice than trying to deal
with a system that was given to you with somebody else's information
and setup already on it. Unfortunately, people who want to make
money, or want to help other people, or both, do this way too often:
hand on a computer without fully erasing and reinstalling a clean
system and without even remembering and passing on passwords if for
some reason it cannot be reinstalled by the giver/seller. It's often
a very well-intentioned action, but it often makes things very
difficult for a new user and may even end up discouraging that user
from trying to use a Mac.
Did you post here what your Mac's model is, amount of memory, etc.
It's very possible you could and should eventually install Yosemite
but you would want to know that your system is compatible.
If you need help doing an install and don't already have somebody to
help you, and live in the U.S. and could work over the phone, I
would be glad to help you. You would be welcome to email me offlist
and we could explore whether this would be doable. There are
probably others on the list who would do the same and if you feel
that your best course is to do this as independently as possible, I
know that people on the list will be glad to continue assisting you
via the list. I actually know nothing about your background and
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