Ok, I have ask for this thread to be stopped, are you folks going to make me put this list back in moderation? Keith Reedy On Oct 30, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Lock the Microsoft staff in a dark room with no monitors and no mice. What's > in the room is a computer with a blank hard drive and a Windows installation > disk. When they turn the computer on a recording plays giving them the > registration key for that copy of windows once then the tape self-destructs. > A timer starts running as soon as the door is locked. If they don't manage > to install windows and make it talk in 6 hours, the oxygen in the room starts > replacing itself with unscented liquid natural gas. That goes on with a live > TV feede and nobody is given the location of the room until the staff walks > out or doesn't. Under those conditions, I'll bet a year's salary on the gas > and not on the Microsoft personnel. I think that's one of the next > introductions the World needs as it relates to Microsoft. On Sat, 30 Oct > 2010, ashley wrote: > >> well yes, that's true. However, MSAA has been around since the early 90's, >> where as voiceover (and it's accessibility frameworks) have been around >> since 2005. Voiceover, in my opinion, has made more progress than MSAA has, >> or ever will, considering the amount of MSAA users switching to the apple >> devices. >> ash >> >> Join the all new micro-blogging service! >> http://blog160.com >> Website: >> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >> Podcast: >> http://www.bavis.co.uk/theactechpodcast >> Blog: >> http://daysofthegeek.blogspot.com >> Twitter: >> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grady" <tfgrady1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 6:18 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >> >> >>> We're all entitled to our own opinions and I happen to agree with that, >>> but >>> it has been more successful then voiceover. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ashley >>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:54 PM >>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> >>> True. MSAA does suck though:) >>> ash >>> Join the all new micro-blogging service! >>> http://blog160.com >>> Website: >>> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>> Podcast: >>> http://www.bavis.co.uk/theactechpodcast >>> Blog: >>> http://daysofthegeek.blogspot.com >>> Twitter: >>> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grady" <tfgrady1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 5:45 PM >>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > And the exact Same thing can be said about MSAA. >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ashley >>> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:55 AM >>> > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > > you, wou have a point there. Safari isn't accessible on windows, due to >>> > webkit. A lot of the webkit based browsers aren't accessible. HOwever, > >>> > the >>> > accessibility frameworks are there for ms to use... use them. >>> > ash >>> > Join the all new micro-blogging service! >>> > http://blog160.com >>> > Website: >>> > http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>> > Podcast: >>> > http://www.bavis.co.uk/theactechpodcast >>> > Blog: >>> > http://daysofthegeek.blogspot.com >>> > Twitter: >>> > http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Tim Grady" <tfgrady1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 2:35 PM >>> > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > > > > Silly. It works on microsoft computers. If Apple wants it to be >>> > > accessible in their OS then microsoft and Apple should work together >>> > > on this and stop playing the blame game. The fact is that they are >>> > > two totally different OS'S and probably there a lot of things neither >>> > > company wants the other one to see. Besides, I don't think IWork's or >>> > > I life is running under Windows, and even the applications that are >>> > > like Safari aren't accessible. >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bubba >>> > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 7:00 AM >>> > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > > > > Yes, that is because it is up to MS to make it accessible with VO >>> > > > > not >>> > > Apple make VO accessible with MS office. >>> > > > > > > > > Sign, >>> > > Bubba >>> > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Mann >>> > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:39 PM >>> > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > > > > I've emailed apple accessibility on the subject, and i was >>> > > > > referred to >>> > > microsoft for the question. >>> > > On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Bubba wrote: >>> > > > > > They say MS did not make it accessible with VO what I hear. >>> > > > > > > > > > Sign, >>> > > > Bubba >>> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell >>> > > > Solowoniuk >>> > > > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:58 PM >>> > > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011. >>> > > > > > > Hi all, >>> > > > > > > I notice that Apple is announcing the release of Microsoft >>> > > > > > > Office > > > for >>> > > > Mac 2011. 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