[macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011.

  • From: Olivia Norman <olivianorman@xxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:47:37 -0800

Agreed, John!
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs

On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>      I don't recall if it was on this list, but there was a lengthy 
> discussion about this subject a while back when, I believe, MS Office 2008 
> was released for the Mac without accessibility.  The point was clearly made 
> through technical data that MS deliberately chose not to make the product 
> accessible.  In fact, from my understanding, the way the framework has been 
> developed by Apple, you have to go out of your way to make something entirely 
> inaccessible.  So, to say it's Apple's responsibility to make Office 
> accessible is completely ridiculous.  Apple didn't develop the package, yet 
> they provided the tools for the developer, Microsoft, to make it accessible.  
> MS has, thus far, chosen to contradict their own claim to a commitment to 
> accessibility.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> 
> On Feb 14, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
> 
>> MS has made their product accessible in their own OS? Really? Well, sure, if 
>> you use a third party screen reading solution I guess it's accessible.
>> Apple has built the frame work, others have successfully made software, 
>> apps, etc, work with VO, so hopefully MS will take care of this.
>> 
>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Tim Grady wrote:
>> 
>>> I disagree with you.  VO is an Apple product.  Microsoft has made office 
>>> accessible in their operating system.  I fail to see why they are 
>>> responsible for something Apple should be doing.
>>> On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I got to play with it yesterday, and it still doesn't work, my time was 
>>>> limited, though, so if someone's gotten it to work, I would love to hear 
>>>> how.
>>>> It's up to MS to fix this, but I'm not holding my breath either, as we all 
>>>> know they don't take accessibility as seriously as Apple does.
>>>> 
>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 30, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Bubba wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, that is because it is up to MS to make it accessible with VO not 
>>>>> Apple
>>>>> make VO accessible with MS office.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sign,
>>>>> Bubba
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin Mann
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:39 PM
>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've emailed apple accessibility on the subject, and i was referred to
>>>>> microsoft for the question.  
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Bubba wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They say MS did not make it accessible with VO what I hear.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sign,
>>>>>> Bubba
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell 
>>>>>> Solowoniuk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:58 PM
>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Introducing Microsoft Office for Mac 2011.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I notice that Apple is announcing the release of Microsoft Office for 
>>>>>> Mac 2011.  Any chance this version might be accessible for us VO 
>>>>>> users? <fingers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> crossed, but not holding breath>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>> 
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