thanks so much Keith. I think I am going to shut my computer down at night instead of letting it sleep as it sometimes acts strangely when I wake it up. I have a feeling that will help. If it doesn't, I will certainly let you know. I've already tried the key strokes you suggested to no avail. It doesn't seem to link the cursors. I will play with it some more. It's behaving ok at the moment, but in 5 seconds it could start again. Thanks again for your concern, On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: > Carlene, > > If you feel that you are having focus problems, check where your mouse is > located with VO keys-F5 and rout the mouse with voKeys-command-f5. This > seems to take care of my focus issues. And if we need to get together on > skype, iChat, or, the phone we will do that in order to find the answer to > the problem. > > Keith Reedy > > Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from > Bibles For The Blind. > > http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml > > God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:30 PM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I am still having a focus problem in mail and ITunes so maybe they are >> related to Joel's problem somehow. It seems as though the mouse and vO >> cursors aren't tracking properly. >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote: >> >>> You probably already thought of this, but it really sounds as though you >>> are touching the trackpad while typing... >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:18 PM, David Poehlman >>> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Joel; >>>> >>>> If you are running snow leopard, there is only one thing I can think of >>>> that might be giving you this type of problem. in vo utility, under >>>> navigation, set mouse cursor to ignores voiceover cursor and that should >>>> fix it. >>>> >>>> otherly, make sure that you are not interacting and make sure that quick >>>> nav is turned off. >>>> >>>> Let us know if you need more help and how it goes. >>>> >>>> Nice to see you here. >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Joel Zimba wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I have had my mbp for two weeks now and I mostly love it. there is one >>>> huge problem I am having. >>>> >>>> edit wndows. like in textedit or mail or Pages all seem to lose focus or >>>> to wrap to the top of the window while I type. >>>> >>>> I ca onl think this is a VO issue or my configuration it can't possibly >>>> be normal functionality. sometimes it seems to happen at the end of >>>> pages, where instead of running to a new line, the insertion point goes to >>>> the top of the page. other times the window loses focus and goes to a >>>> menu option. >>>> >>>> It is inconsistent. It has not happened in this mesage as of yet. >>>> >>>> I thought I was hitting the trackpad, but that is not the case. >>>> >>>> any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> I think the Mac world is more similar than different and I ave greatly >>>> enjoyed the challenge of te past days. >>>> >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> Joel >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, ashley wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes!!! >>>>> >>>>> ash >>>>> Personal website: >>>>> www.ashleycox.co.uk >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk" >>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:32 AM >>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mail question >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> RussellAgreed! It is easy to accidentally turn it on! >>>>> On 2009-11-17, at 6:14 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> we need a configuration option to disable quick nav. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You're welcome Carlene. I've had quick nav turn on accidentally... not >>>>>> sure how it happened, but I didn't intentionally turn it on, and after >>>>>> fighting with the problems you mentioned in Mail, checked the quick nav >>>>>> keys only to find that they were turned on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Russell >>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 10:31 PM, carlene knight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Russell. I seldom use QuickNav, but thanks for the suggestion. >>>>>>> It's good to know that the problem exists when tabbing between the >>>>>>> panes as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Carlene, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use the preview pane and tab from the message table into the message >>>>>>>> content, and sometimes run into this. I end up in the header area and >>>>>>>> can't get out, so have to close mail and open it again. I did notice >>>>>>>> that one time when this happened, I had turned on quick Nav in Safari >>>>>>>> and forgot to turn it back off, so this was causing the problem. >>>>>>>> Something to check when you encounter this next time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 7:13 PM, carlene knight wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have recently encountered an ongoing problem when viewing mail. It >>>>>>>>> seems as though the cursor jumps all over the place instead of going >>>>>>>>> from the preview pain to the message body when using vo/j. I might >>>>>>>>> end up in status, headers, or scroll area. It's getting quite >>>>>>>>> annoying. I have all of the cursors following each other except that >>>>>>>>> the mouse cursor ignores the Voiceover cursor. That's the way I've >>>>>>>>> had it for a long time, longer than the problem has existed. It >>>>>>>>> seems as though the problem is getting worse every day. 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