[macvoiceover] Re: E-mail and iTunes and other focus issues for Carlene and others.

  • From: Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:19:46 -0500

Folks,

The popup button in Navigation, in Voiceover utilities has 3 choices,
moves Voiceover curser,
ignores Voiceover curser,
follows Voiceover curser,
Which tells the mouse how to act deserves a special look if you are having 
focus issues.

Right now, I have it set to ignores Voiceover curser and life is pretty good.  
The thing you need to remember is if you are using this setting you will need 
to rout the mouse to the Voiceover curser with vo keys command f5 from time to 
time, but, where you have this button set will make a differents. ***If thingds 
are working well for you leave it alone, if its not broke, don't fix it!

Keith Reedy

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On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:49 PM, carlene knight wrote:

> thanks so much Keith.  I think I am going to shut my computer down at night 
> instead of letting it sleep as it sometimes acts strangely when I wake it up. 
>  I have a feeling that will help.  If it doesn't, I will certainly let you 
> know.  I've already tried the key strokes you suggested to no avail.  It 
> doesn't seem to link the cursors.  I will play with it some more.  It's 
> behaving ok at the moment, but in 5 seconds it could start again.  Thanks 
> again for your concern,  
> 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2009, at 10:51 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:
> 
>> Carlene,
>> 
>> If you feel that you are having focus problems, check where your mouse is 
>> located with VO keys-F5 and rout the mouse with voKeys-command-f5.  This 
>> seems to take care of my focus issues.  And if we need to get together on 
>> skype, iChat, or, the phone we will do that in order to find the answer to 
>> the problem.
>> 
>> Keith Reedy
>> 
>> Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as a gift from 
>> Bibles For The Blind.
>> 
>> http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml
>> 
>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson Taylor.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:30 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>> 
>>> I am still having a focus problem in mail and ITunes so maybe they are 
>>> related to Joel's problem somehow.  It seems as though the mouse and vO 
>>> cursors aren't tracking properly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You probably already thought of this, but it really sounds as though you 
>>>> are touching the trackpad while typing...
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:18 PM, David Poehlman 
>>>> <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Joel;
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are running snow leopard, there is only one thing I can think of 
>>>>> that might be giving you this type of problem.  in vo utility, under 
>>>>> navigation, set mouse cursor to ignores voiceover cursor and that should 
>>>>> fix it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> otherly, make sure that you are not interacting and make sure that quick 
>>>>> nav is turned off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let us know if you need more help and how it goes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nice to see you here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Joel Zimba wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have  had my mbp for two weeks now and I mostly love it. there is one 
>>>>> huge problem I am having.
>>>>> 
>>>>> edit wndows.  like in textedit or mail or Pages all seem to lose focus  
>>>>> or to wrap to the top of the window while I type.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I ca onl think this is a VO issue or my configuration  it can't possibly 
>>>>> be normal functionality.  sometimes it seems to happen at the end of 
>>>>> pages, where instead of running to a new line, the insertion point goes 
>>>>> to the top of the page.  other times the window loses focus and goes to a 
>>>>> menu option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is inconsistent.  It has not happened in this mesage as of yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought I was hitting the trackpad, but that is not the case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> any help would be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the Mac world is more similar than different and I ave greatly 
>>>>> enjoyed the challenge of te past days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, ashley wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ash
>>>>>> Personal website:
>>>>>> www.ashleycox.co.uk
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk" 
>>>>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:32 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mail question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RussellAgreed!  It is easy to accidentally turn it on!
>>>>>> On 2009-11-17, at 6:14 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> we need a configuration option to disable quick nav.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You're welcome Carlene.  I've had quick nav turn on accidentally... not 
>>>>>>> sure how it happened, but I didn't intentionally turn it on, and after 
>>>>>>> fighting with the problems you mentioned in Mail, checked the quick nav 
>>>>>>> keys only to find that they were turned on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 10:31 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks Russell.  I seldom use QuickNav, but thanks for the suggestion. 
>>>>>>>> It's good to know that the problem exists when tabbing between the 
>>>>>>>> panes as well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Carlene,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I use the preview pane and tab from the message table into the 
>>>>>>>>> message content, and sometimes run into this.  I end up in the header 
>>>>>>>>> area and can't get out, so have to close mail and open it again.  I 
>>>>>>>>> did notice that one time when this happened, I had turned on quick 
>>>>>>>>> Nav in Safari and forgot to turn it back off, so this was causing the 
>>>>>>>>> problem. Something to check when you encounter this next time.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 7:13 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have recently encountered an ongoing problem when viewing mail.  
>>>>>>>>>> It seems as though the cursor jumps all over the place instead of 
>>>>>>>>>> going from the preview pain to the message body when using vo/j.  I 
>>>>>>>>>> might end up in status, headers, or scroll area.  It's getting quite 
>>>>>>>>>> annoying.  I have all of the cursors following each other except 
>>>>>>>>>> that the mouse cursor ignores the Voiceover cursor.  That's the way 
>>>>>>>>>> I've had it for a long time, longer than the problem has existed.  
>>>>>>>>>> It seems as though the problem is getting worse every day.  Any 
>>>>>>>>>> ideas?  thanks.>
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