[lit-ideas] Re: math question

  • From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 08:11:17 +0900

What statistician George Box said about statistical models may be true of all 
that we take to be knowledge, "Essentially all models are wrong, but some are 
useful."

John

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On 2012/04/10, at 1:22, Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> If I were a mathematician, I would know what it is that I'm asking, what it 
> is that I want to know, but then, I'd know it.
> 
> The sequence of mathematical notation is what it is because it symbolizes, 
> expresses, a reality out there, surely -- not that humans have invented this 
> reality.  If one does this series of multiplications and additions of 
> quantities, an interesting pattern emerges in the symbols used to represent 
> these manipulations of quantities.  The pattern seems to call attention to a 
> principle in mathematics rather than being a symptom of our notational 
> invention.  There must be a theoretical "because" to the question of why 
> these patterns occur the way they do.
> 
> In music, the circle of fifths isn't just some cute trick or device for 
> memorizing the progression of sharps and flats through major keys.  It 
> describes a fundamental part of the structure of music, the way western music 
> is woven.  
> 
> I suppose the (a?) problem here is that I am looking for a brief explanation 
> of something in theoretical math, instead of taking a multitude (how many 
> explanations in a multitude?)  of classes.  (What's the square root of a 
> negative multitude?)
> 
> When "we" make mathematical statements are we using symbols to represent how 
> reality works, or simply inventing a code?
> 
> Julie Krueger
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I have to agree with Adriano... there is nothing mysterious, or even 
> explainable about mathematics. It just IS! You can tell me WHY 2+2=4 REALLY. 
> Except to describe the fact that it does. 
> 
> just my 1+1 cents.
> 
> p
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> the sequence has nothing surprising (take a look at terry tao's work if you 
> like surprises)
> 
>  
> ? נכון
> >>> Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> 09/04/2012 01:19 AM >>>
> 
> So from all this I take it that no one can, in fact, explain the why of the 
> math sequence?
> 
> Julie Krueger
> 
> 
> 

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