*From*: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>*To*: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:23:16 -0700 (PDT)

I believe that Descartes though takes into consideration the possibility that the Devil might be deceiving us about mathematical propositions as well (in a context in which we are also deceived about our sensual perceptions), if I recollect correctly. O.K. ________________________________ From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx> To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 6:19 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: math question I understand that someone once wrote a Ph.D. dissertation in mathematics to prove that 2+2=4 and that he managed to prove it at length. I don't know any details though. In Orwell's 1984, the proposition is treated as an example of something that is self-evidently true. O.K. ________________________________ From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 6:13 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: math question Paul Stone has a nice way of putting a simple, elementary point. There is no "use" in asking "why is there an infinity of primes" or "why are there infinitely many perfects?" (note before the idiots scream, it is not known whether there are infinitely many perfects, for those who forgot their school, 6 and 28 are perfect, 27 is not perfect, while 313 and 317 are prime.....) there is no way. once discovered, it is a fact. I take it to be the highest point if idiocy to ask "why" earth has one planet or why English does not have phonetic clicks. There are some facts, a subset of those, are mathematical facts. Any form of Sokal game cuts no ice whatsoever, if you found that contrary to true belief there is the largest prime, show it. best regards >>> Paul Stone <pastone@xxxxxxxxx> 09/04/2012 06:01 PM >>> I have to agree with Adriano... there is nothing mysterious, or even explainable about mathematics. It just IS! You can tell me WHY 2+2=4 REALLY. Except to describe the fact that it does. just my 1+1 cents. p On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: the sequence has nothing surprising (take a look at terry tao's work if you like surprises) > > >? נכון >>> Julie Krueger <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx> 09/04/2012 01:19 AM >>> > >So from all this I take it that no one can, in fact, explain the why of the >math sequence? > >Julie Krueger > > Please find our Email Disclaimer here-->: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer

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