Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 7:15:49 PM, John Wager wrote: JW> There is another complication here: What does "going to war" or "being JW> at war" mean? I agree: the counter-examples that came to my mind might not count as "war". But I think my main problem's with "completely annihilate/conquer", both because the fill me with moral revulsion and because of my previous >>but that was not an indecisive war; clearly X did beat Y -- Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK mailto:judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html