Omar Kusturica wrote: "Is there some other suggestion for what a chair might be ?" Something you sit on? Four legs? Maybe more, maybe less. For one person? Maybe two? But not three. And four is right out! Has a back? Or not, but most do. All the other stuff about whether chairs are facts or whether sentences about chairs express facts is handwaving. To paraphrase Robert, people are able to talk about chairs and even, remarkably, use chairs, despite not having read philosophy. This is not to say that there isn't a place for philosophical discussion regarding facts, just that all this 'facts exist' and 'The world says' business is the wrong way. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html