Donal McEvoy wrote:
Donal McEvoy.
I agree. Here below, these views by Popper relate: My comments are interspersed in English: Popper's early views on 'free will' were owed mostly to a British scholar surnamed Compton --especially after Popper was selected to give the first Compton Memorial Lecture in 1965. "I found myself not knowing who Compton was." In Austria, where Popper comes from, it is assumed that a lecture in memory to X has to be about x. Popper then said: "The idea that the only alternative to determinism is just sheer chance was taken over by Schlick, together with many of his views on the subject, from Hume, who asserted that 'the removal' of what he called 'physical necessity' must always result in ‘the same thing with chance." Popper was offended by a "novel" written by Schilck: "Frill", or Free Will as a pseudoproblem" Popper went on quoting from Hume: "As objects must either be conjoin'd or not, . . . 'tis impossible to admit of any medium betwixt chance and an absolute necessity.’ "Hume's and Schlick's ontological thesis that there cannot exist anything intermediate between chance and determinism seems to me not only highly dogmatic (not to say doctrinaire) but clearly absurd; and it is understandable only on the assumption that they believed in a complete determinism in which chance has no status except as a symptom of our ignorance", but "Freedom," Popper "is not just chance but, rather, the result of a subtle interplay between something almost random or haphazard, and something like a restrictive or selective control." Achilles disagreed. The Greeks did not fight for _freedom_; they fought for _life_. Indeed, to many of them, an enslaved life was worse than death. (The fact that Achilles also said, "I rather be a hired labourer than the King of Hell" confused a few. "Why did he not say, "I´d rather be a SLAVE"? The implicature, by Achilles, was that slaves led more comfortable lives than a few hired labourers he apparently knew. Popper then went to associate himself with another Brit: Sir J. Eccles. It is with Eccles that he wrote: "New ideas have a striking similarity to genetic mutations. Now, let us look for a moment at genetic mutations. Mutations are, it seems, brought about by quantum theoretical indeterminacy (including radiation effects). Accordingly, they are also probabilistic and not in themselves originally selected or adequate, but on them there subsequently operates natural selection which eliminates inappropriate mutations. Now we could conceive of a similar process with respect to new ideas and to free-will decisions, and similar things." By "free-will decisions" in the "Q-A" section of the debate he wrote, "You know, decisions which are free." But a slave has free-will? "You are begging the question," he said, adding, "and begging is not respectable." Popper goes on to say, "That is to say, a range of possibilities is brought about by a probabilistic and quantum mechanically characterized set of proposals, as it were - of possibilities brought forward by the brain. On these there then operates a kind of selective procedure which eliminates those proposals and those possibilities which are not acceptable to the mind."" In the Q-A section of the debate, Popper was unable to show how "free", which we use to mean "not enslaved" relates to all that theoretical psychobiological stuff he was bringing in. "I'm not a historian," he remarked. "My thoughts on free-will are meant _philosophically_." At Cambridge, for the Darwin Lecture, he, yet again changes his mind, or rather made up his mind differently. He had been critical of the use of "selection" in Darwin's famous slogan, "Survival of the fittest", which Popper had thought "analytic" and "pretty vacuous at times." Jjust in time to honour Darwin properly for the Memorial Lecture, he is candid abou it: "The selection of a kind of behavior out of a randomly offered repertoire may be an act of free will." In the Q-A section of the debate, he elluded the question about Popper committing what Finlay had called the "free-will error" ("It is wrong to suppose that any activity is done voluntarily"). Popper went on: "I am an indeterminist; and in discussing indeterminism I have often regretfully pointed out that quantum indeterminacy does not seem to help us; for the amplification of something like, say, radioactive disintegration processes would not lead to human action or even animal action, but only to random movements. I have changed my mind on this issue. A choice process may be a selection process, and the selection may be from some repertoire of random events, without being random in its turn. This seems to me to offer a promising solution to one of our most vexing problems, and one by downward causation". The problem with Popper's discussion on free will is that he fails to address the "sociocultural" institution of "slavery" that gave Western civilisation free will. It is not remarkable that McEvoy follows Popper "au pied de la lettre.D. McEvoy, like Popper before him, doubts that an examination of the institution of slavery, as it existed in the society which gave us the expression, 'free will' (prohaiesis eleuthera, thelesis eleuthera", vide "A free will", M. Frede 2011), as coined by Epictetus, a former slave, is irrelevant for the philosophical discussion of free will.
Epictetus has a good one on this, as Geary recollects: As his master was inflicting corporal punishment on him, he uttered, "You will twist my leg".The world being "determined", that did come to "happen". Epictetus commented, coldly, "I told you you would twist my leg".
Similarly Oenomaus, when noting Chrysippuss's weakening the claims of determinism (in Leucippus -- and cfr. Popper's weakening the claims of determinism for indeterminism in his "Darwin College" lecture -- on 'free' will, above) thought that a new term was in need: the will would be half-enslaved (hemidoulia).
In "The discovery of freedom in Ancient Greece", Brown professor of history (elaborating on his Habilitationsschrift) wrote:
"Freedom was such a basic precondition of noble status that the elite did not even think of it."
In fact, Hecateus did think of it. For Hecateus, as Heodoto has it, had claimed, to everybody's scorn, that, "originally, the Greeks had no slaves" (especially Athenians when constructing the old walls of the old city).
Hecateus's point is hard to prove, or falsify, for Popperian matters.The fact that Mycenaean civilisation employed 'doulos' and 'eleutheros' is yet a red-herring, too, in that they apparently used those terms with a different 'use' as we are familiar reading Greek, and where we translate them as 'slave' and 'free'. For example, the archbishop of Mycena was called "doulos theou". A servant of God. Surely metaphorical. Ditto Gowers ended his letters, "Your obedient civil SERVANT", not meaning it.
Homer, for example, uses 'dmos', not 'doulos' -- where 'dmos' derives from the verb, 'to tame', and thus translates as 'the tamed' one. But there are no slaves in the "Iliad". (There are female slaves in Odyssea. Ulysses (or Odysseus) is said to have killed the fifty of them he had, because they had "misbehaved". He hang them. Those were _brutal_ times).
The author of "The discovery of freedom" goes on to suggest that we concentrate then also on other terms which may be as useful as 'freedom': 'autarkeia', for example. And I agree. Autarkos means, you set your own principles. Aristotle's idea of the "auto-mobile", a self-governing agent.
The classification of 'slaves' and 'free' ones could be complex in Ancient Greece, as most things were. Anyone familiar with the Greek language knows that there were the "apetairoi", even in Sparta, This was an oxymoron, as they were freemen "not integrated into the civic organisation" -- The Romans understood the notion as "sine suffragio", as when an "alien" in a country has no voting rights and then is not "free" in the Hegelian usage of the expression. But then there was the "katakeimenos", another oxymoronic notion, indended to label a free man who "is no longer, because he pledges his person in payment for debt". His price was distributed in "drachmai", the circulating coin in Athens.
There was also the "nenikamenos", another oxymoron: a free man condemned for debt and "handed over in bondage to his creditor". Some nenikamenoi were able to buy their freedom back, "for a few drachmai", though. (Vide Foucault, "Prisons in Greece, and what they mean to us").
As we travel to England, it is difficult to say the situation improved. Pope Gregory named the Angles "angelic" as he saw a couple of them in a cage, where they were being sold as slaves in Rome. Ireland was a good destination for a lot of slaves. Slaves who could knit were appreciated, since they could perform that activity well after they had lost the ability to perform others.
In England, a "theow" was a slave -- not a "servus", as in the Continent --, In "Slavery in the British Isles", an Oxford scholars quotes a report by Aelfric of such one. On being questioned about his duties, the "theow" replied, "I must fill the bin of the oxen with hay, and water them, and carry out the dung. Ha, ha! hard work it is, because I am not free".
The Danelaw brought some order to the proceedings. But legal codes have to be read "with a pinch of salt", as Grice says ("To imlpicate is to write between the lines, and I expect to be "read" between the lines" -- If in Greece a law went, "No slave should fall in love with a free person", the implicature was that many did; for surely you wouln't have a law, "It shouldn't rain on Saturdays.").
A Danelaw codex reads that "a father, if compelled by necessity, has the power of giving into slavery his son for seven years." There is an addendum, in manuscript, which reads, "After which term, he has no more power of doing so -- not without the consent of the son." The Danes were more civilised than the Angles, on the whole. (The paradox of the self-enslaving son was taken up by Hintikka).
Similarly, a register in Dartmouth, Yorkshire, reads: "A youth of fourteen can make himself a slave." Fourteen was the time needed for the mastery of Anglo-Saxon and surely an iliterate slave was less worthy. What puzzled Buckle, in "The history of English civilisation", was, this from the Doomsday Book: "Brightmaer purchased the freedom of himself for two pounds." ("It is not clear if he means "pounds of" what").
McEvoy thinks it all boils down to simplistic scenarios. Consider,"The thief forced me to give him my wallet." "Surely you could have challenged him". "And get shot?". "I mean, there is no need to go hyperbolic and say "forced"".
Similarly, McEvoy writes:>insofar as slaves preferred slavery to honourable suicide it could be (and was) argued that remaining a slave was an act of "free will", albeit of a very fractionalised or fettered kind."
This should open a new line of argumentation, but it doesn't unless McEvoy provides the reference as to who was the first to argue that way. It couldn't have been the Catholic philosopher G. E. M. Anscombe when she wrote (in her often reprinted "Soft determinism") about her 'being chained up' to be a denial, "as everybody would agree", of her 'free will', Rogers Albritton replied:
"I do want to dispute, first, what Anscombe thinks "_everyone_ will allow." *I* don't allow it. I don't see (do you?) that my freedom of will would be reduced at all if you *chained me up*."
Albritton goes on: "You would of course deprive me of considerable freedom of movement if you did that; you would thereby diminish my already unimpressive capacity to do what I will. But I don't see that my will would be _any the less_ free."
Albritton went on to describe Anscombe's views, as he hung his head down low and said, "Oh!, poor Miss Anscombe in chains."
And so on. Cheers, J. L. Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html