[lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
- From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 19:42:53 EDT
Mea culpa. Sometimes my posts arrive in non-chronological order in my inbox
and it's sometimes unclear to what post the next poster is replying to. Fix
that grammar for me.
Julie Krueger
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Date: 7/5/06 3:18:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time From:
_lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx) To:
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No need for ESP. Notice merely that the person Iâm responding to in the
message prior to mine is Irene. Notice also that the subject was posted on
Theoria. Unless you are Irene and have just responded on Lit-Ideas to a note
posted on Theoria, I am not referring to you.
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<<Are you the same person I thought logical the other day?>>
And how would I, he, or she, know if you thought whomever logical the other
day? When we all develop ESP we'll let you know.
Julie Krueger
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7/4/06 3:29:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time
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I wondered why your most recent comment over on Theoria didnât make any
sense and now I see why. You referred to a comment you mistakenly posted on
Lit-Ideas and then followed it up over on Theoria. No great loss as far as I
can
see because this one goes off on an illogical tangent. Are you the same
person I thought logical the other day?
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 11:35 AM
To: lit-ideas
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Right on cue, Lawrence dives straight into denial. Did you read the part
that Bush said on television right after 9/11 that they were going to be going
after terrorist financing? And have you read Ron Susskind's book? Too
treasonous for you? Once again, BUSH HIMSELF SAID RIGHT AFTER 9/11 that they
were going to be going after terrorist financing. Where is the treason?
Silencing the press at all costs, that's what you want. Why don't you just
say
so? Read Susskind's book (which you are too cowardly to do) and then talk to
me about this war, which btw your great grandchildren will be fighting,
without the freedom of the press that you took away from them.
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From: _Lawrence Helm_ (mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
To: _aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Sent: 7/4/2006 2:24:26 PM
Subject: RE: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Right on cue, Irene, you want to infringe the 2nd amendment in a discussion
about the 1st amendment protecting treasonous behavior. Right after Larry
says hed rather a few Americans were killed by the enemy than infringe the
1st amendment, you want the 2nd amendment infringed and the guns of citizens
registered. You imply that only the gun industry is opposed to that. No,
Irene, the bulk of Americans want to retain the right of self-defense and
dont
want the government or anyone else messing with that right. How about
registering every person who gives aid and comfort to the enemy? -- Make them
get a
license for that -- have them fill out questionnaires and get written
approval before they can verbally support the enemy.
Lawrence
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[mailto:THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
The Times story is such old news. Bush himself said they were going after
terrorist financing right after 9/11. It's just another recycled "news"
story like all the others, the way they recycle movies and fashions. Flash!
Low
Carb Diets [Cause Weight Loss/Cause Weight Gain]. Flash! [BBC headline
this month that gayness is biological, first printed in the Atlantic Monthly
in
1997] etc. etc. Flash! U.S. Government Tracking Terrorist Finances, as
Promised by Bush on Television 5 Years Ago! The NYT doesn't want to work
itself
too hard, so it recycles Bush's own words from public addresses from 2001 and
calls it news, and the conservatives get all excited about it. All this
focusing on "treason" and flag burning (for a flag not even made in this
country) and gay rights, all these t rivial issues and nonissues has to be a
way of
taking attention away from insurmountable issues , like having no borders
and no money and an unwinnable war. Absolutely nobody is stepping up to the
plate to address these things. Instead they turn old news into treason.
Anybody read Ron Susskind's book, The One Percent Doctrine? Really
frightening
stuff. Much better to say Susskind is peddling treason and then focus on
anti-flag burning amendments.
I guess rampant gun violence is happening because the 2nd Amendment is being
suppressed. I heard a discussion that the reason the gun industry is
against registration of guns, which ultimately ties the hands of law
enforcement,
is so that guns can't be traced back to the manufacturers and the
manufacturers can't be sued. Like pharma, the gun industry is out to make
money at all
costs. The U.S. is the world's #1 gun exporter. Bad guys inside the
country, bad guys outside the country, we'll arm them all, as long as they'll
pay
and there are no consequences for the seller. Military Keynesianism, that's
what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.
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From: _Lawrence Helm_ (mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
To: _THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:THEORIA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Sent: 7/4/2006 11:11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [THEORIA] Treason trials for the NY Times & WAPO
Its too bad that the 2nd Amendment isnt given the same indulgence as the
1st. Then, perhaps, we could defend ourselves against traitors who were
tipping off the enemy as to our tactics.
Lawrence
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